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The Bronx is a fascinating and unique urban environment, not just in comparison to the other boroughs but really the entire country. While Brooklyn and Queens are unique as well, there are parts that remind of other cities like Boston, Philly, SF, DC. The Bronx doesn't remindme of anywhere else I've ever been.
When I think of Brooklyn the first thing that comes to mind are the brownstone row houses. Boston, triple deckers. Chicago, bungalows. Baltimore, little row houses with white marble steps. DC, little row houses with pointy roofs. The Bronx, six or seven story apartment buildings. I don't know of anywhere else that's made up mostly of these types of apartment buildings.
Does it really have better access to the subway or is Brooklyn just a bigger borough that has more trains to cater to it?
He's referring to the lack of crosstown lines in The Bronx. But that being said, there are a ton of intra-Brooklyn trips that would be difficult to do with the subway alone.
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I said 6 story and up and that there is likely more in total in a borough comparison. There's a lot scattered everywhere.
If you want chunks though, and those aside from housing project or mitchell-lama complexes, it'd be downtown Brooklyn, DUMBO, North Brooklyn waterfront, the areas near Prospect Park like Grand Army Plaza, Eastern Parkway, Ocean and Caton Avenues along the park and several blocks around where they meet, Ocean Avenue along Kensington, and then bands of them paralleling Caton Avenue or Ocean Avenue a few times, skipping over some lower density streets (I don't know why it was developed this way), Hasidic Williamsburg/Broadway Triangle and Ocean Parkway in Kensington. That's not exhaustive, but it's what I can think of immediately. I'm sure there's more elsewhere that's in larger clumps, but there's definitely a lot of random 6 stories and up scattered throughout the borough.
That B train line is very dense in a lot of parts and hits dense parts of Brooklyn, much of Manhattan and the beach, and it’s why I think it should run its full length all week. I also think a crossing for the lower level tracks after Ocean Parkway station isn’t a bad idea in order to allow B trains to go one station further south. Or if we want to get really crazy, make Coney Island-Stillwell to be through-running and just have trains keep on rolling through, though I’m sure it’ll be tough figuring out how to make it so all train lines going in and out are balanced out.
Right, but is it like that for those neighborhoods throughout or just certain streets? I know Kensington and Flatbush are not, even though they have plenty of 6 story buildings (Flatbush more so than Kensington).
The Bronx is a fascinating and unique urban environment, not just in comparison to the other boroughs but really the entire country. While Brooklyn and Queens are unique as well, there are parts that remind of other cities like Boston, Philly, SF, DC. The Bronx doesn't remind me of anywhere else I've ever been.
I agree, The Bronx doesn't remind me of anywhere except upper Manhattan. It is easily one of the most urban non-CBD areas in the country. I love those endless blocks of tenement buildings that you find in the West Bronx, with a sprinkling of high rises.
I wish someone would compile some of the most intense looking Bronx street views on google maps. I wonder which neighborhood would do the best with this.
He's referring to the lack of crosstown lines in The Bronx. But that being said, there are a ton of intra-Brooklyn trips that would be difficult to do with the subway alone.
Yes. Thank you this is exactly what I meant. Brooklyn’s subway coverage is far superior IMO not just because it has more trains, but because of the inter-connectivity between lines and crosstown options. Sometimes traveling around Brooklyn can be a bit annoying and tedious depending on your start/end points and may require a few transfers, but The Bronx doesn’t really have any of that. With The Bronx, your only options (for the most part) are to travel up/down a N/S line either towards Manhattan or away from it.
Another thing about the subway in Brooklyn which I consider a big plus is that is provides a number of options for traveling directly to Queens without having to go through Manhattan: The A, J/Z, M, G, and even the L which straddles the border at one point. In North Brooklyn the trains basically have 2 options: Manhattan-bound or Queens-Bound (and they all go to different areas and directions in Queens too), verses The Bronx where the only options are Manhattan-bound or North-bound. This makes sense due to geography since BK/QNS are on the same island, but I think that this makes Brooklyn’s subway not just better connected within itself, but with the entire city at large.
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The Bronx is a fascinating and unique urban environment, not just in comparison to the other boroughs but really the entire country. While Brooklyn and Queens are unique as well, there are parts that remind of other cities like Boston, Philly, SF, DC. The Bronx doesn't remind me of anywhere else I've ever been.
I agree. The Bronx is so distinct and easily recognizable in built environment plus all the hills too. Robert Moses really did a lot of damage to The Bronx which is very unfortunate. Photos like these are just heartbreaking Cross Bronx Expressway Under Construction (1 of 2) | Digital Culture
If it weren’t for all the damage caused by Moses, I think I would be leaning more towards The Bronx, but because of that and also the subways, I lean towards Brooklyn in this comparison. Even despite all the damage, The Bronx still remains an extremely strong urban environment like nowhere else in the country. I I think both BK + BX are still easily the most urban places in the country other than Manhattan.
Yes. Thank you this is exactly what I meant. Brooklyn’s subway coverage is far superior IMO not just because it has more trains, but because of the inter-connectivity between lines and crosstown options. Sometimes traveling around Brooklyn can be a bit annoying and tedious depending on your start/end points and may require a few transfers, but The Bronx doesn’t really have any of that. With The Bronx, your only options (for the most part) are to travel up/down a N/S line either towards Manhattan or away from it.
Another thing about the subway in Brooklyn which I consider a big plus is that is provides a number of options for traveling directly to Queens without having to go through Manhattan: The A, J/Z, M, G, and even the L which straddles the border at one point. In North Brooklyn the trains basically have 2 options: Manhattan-bound or Queens-Bound (and they all go to different areas and directions in Queens too), verses The Bronx where the only options are Manhattan-bound or North-bound. This makes sense due to geography since BK/QNS are on the same island, but I think that this makes Brooklyn’s subway not just better connected within itself, but with the entire city at large.
I agree. The Bronx is so distinct and easily recognizable in built environment plus all the hills too. Robert Moses really did a lot of damage to The Bronx which is very unfortunate. Photos like these are just heartbreaking Cross Bronx Expressway Under Construction (1 of 2) | Digital Culture
If it weren’t for all the damage caused by Moses, I think I would be leaning more towards The Bronx, but because of that and also the subways, I lean towards Brooklyn in this comparison. Even despite all the damage, The Bronx still remains an extremely strong urban environment like nowhere else in the country. I I think both BK + BX are still easily the most urban places in the country other than Manhattan.
Moses did a lot of damage to Brooklyn too. Especially Sunset Park. And if he had had his way he would have sliced and diced Manhattan like a piece of cheese.
Moses did a lot of damage to Brooklyn too. Especially Sunset Park. And if he had had his way he would have sliced and diced Manhattan like a piece of cheese.
Compared to The Bronx, Brooklyn got away from Moses relatively unscathed.
Moses also wanted to tear up SoHo for a giant expressway, and cut Midtown in half too. Thank God that never happened. I think there were also plans for a Bushwick expressway as well, which also thankfully never got built.
When I think of Brooklyn the first thing that comes to mind are the brownstone row houses. Boston, triple deckers. Chicago, bungalows. Baltimore, little row houses with white marble steps. DC, little row houses with pointy roofs. The Bronx, six or seven story apartment buildings. I don't know of anywhere else that's made up mostly of these types of apartment buildings.
Moses also wanted to tear up SoHo for a giant expressway, and cut Midtown in half too. Thank God that never happened. I think there were also plans for a Bushwick expressway as well, which also thankfully never got built.
Damn all Moses would be missing is Palm Trees to complete the Los Angeles inspired NYC lol.
I guess The Bronx being a continuation of Manhattan probably plays into why subways only travel north and south in that borough cause technically speaking Manhattan doesn’t do a good job at that also! Technically!
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