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Old 01-17-2018, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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That's good - though this source's data is wrong about the total number for 2016. They are 46 homicides too high per official FBI and CPD counts. Hoping that it continues though - 2016 and 2/3 of 2017 were pretty bad, and then all of a sudden things went back to kind of "normal" for the handful of years prior to that. Average for a January when the counts were lower were usually in the 30s for a January - right now it's more on track for that, so here's hoping that it ends up even below that average.

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Chicago 18 compare to 21 in 2017
Your data for 2017 is wrong. Chicago had 27 homicides between 1/1/2017 and 1/16/2017. It saw 26 in the same time period for 2016. Here is the official source:
https://data.cityofchicago.org/Publi...ijzp-q8t2/data

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Old 01-18-2018, 07:51 AM
 
Location: I is where I is
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STL still at 6 currently. I’m sure some of this is due to the abnormal freezing temps, but a good start so far. Hopefully the trend continues
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Old 01-18-2018, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Houston
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San Francisco 3
Oklahoma City 4
Oakland, CA 8

Oakland may be back on their BS!
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Old 01-18-2018, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Northeast states
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Chicago 20 homicides compare to 30 in 2017 and 29 in 2016 ending 6 day homicide free streak
Philly is 6 homicides compare to 17 same time in 2017
NYC is still at 14 homicides on par with 2017
Los Angeles still at 9
Baltimore 11
Boston, MA 4
Miami, Florida 4
Harrisburg, PA 1
Birmingham, Alabama 5
Memphis 7
Columbus, Ohio 9
Topeka, Ohio 5
Knoxville, TN 2

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Old 01-19-2018, 02:07 AM
 
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Philly is 6 homicides compare to 17 same time in 2017
NYC is still at 14 homicides on par with 2017
Los Angeles still at 9

Good start for philly
How does L.A compare to 2017?
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Old 01-19-2018, 02:43 AM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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Good start for philly
How does L.A compare to 2017?
LA Compares well, the City had almost 300 Homicides last year,
this year it's on pace for fewer than 200 (Which would be a new historic low
& great to see IMO).
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Old 01-19-2018, 02:45 AM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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Except for the fact that, minus the last few years, Chicago and Philadelphia were basically almost exactly even every year in homicide rate per 100K people for 2013 to 2015 (Philadephia still higher) and before that, Philadelphia was a bit higher than Chicago in homicide rate.

Chicago barely even cracked the top 10 with its insane increase of homicide in 2016. The previous years, Chicago was barely even top 20 highest in rate. Cities like Miami were higher most years. No offense, but the pure fact that you even mention Chicago and Baltimore in the same tier of this stuff shows your lack of understanding what counts, which is the rate - and the fact that Baltimore is most years over 2X the homicide rate of Chicago.

2017 (Not from FBI, but from each's official city source. Using populations from 2016):

St. Louis (last page)A: 65.18 per 100K
Baltimore: 55.47 per 100K
New Orleans: 39.53 per 100K
Detroit: 37.93 per 100K
...
Chicago: 24.4 per 100K
Philadelphia: 20.18 per 100K
Atlanta: 16.72 per 100K

2016 (https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...ble-6.xls/view)
St. Louis: 59.78 per 100K
Baltimore: 51.42 per 100K
Detroit: 45.25 per 100K
New Orleans: 43.81 per 100K
...
Chicago: 28.07 per 100K
Atlanta: 23.49 per 100K
Philadelphia: 17.38 per 100K
Miami: 12.23 per 100K

2015 (https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...tables/table-6)
St. Louis: 59.29 per 100K
Baltimore: 55.37 per 100K
Detroit: 43.82 per 100K
New Orleans: 41.68 per 100K
...
Atlanta: 20.23 per 100K
Philadelphia: 17.85 per 100K
Chicago: 17.52 per 100K
Miami: 17.12 per 100K

2014 (https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...tables/table-6)
St. Louis: 49.91 per 100K
Detroit: 43.53 per 100K
New Orleans: 38.75 per 100K
Baltimore: 33.84 per 100K
...
Atlanta: 20.47 per 100K
Miami: 19.19 per 100K
Philadelphia: 15.91 per 100K
Chicago: 15.09 per 100K

2013 (https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...decpdf/table-6)
Detroit: 45.15 per 100K
New Orleans: 41.38
St. Louis: 37.67 per 100K
Baltimore: 37.42 per 100K
....
Atlanta: 18.62 per 100K
Miami: 16.97 per 100K
Philadelphia: 15.90 per 100K
Chicago: 15.22 per 100K

2012 (https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...decpdf/table-6)
Detroit: 54.59 per 100K
New Orleans: 53.19 per 100K
St. Louis: 35.46 per 100K
Baltimore: 34.85 per 100K
....
Philadelphia: 21.51 per 100K
Atlanta: 18.99 per 100K
Chicago: 18.46 per 100K
Miami: 16.65 per 100K

2011 (https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...tables/table-6)
New Orleans: 57.64 per 100K
Detroit: 48.23 per 100K
St. Louis: 35.26 per 100K
Baltimore: 31.27 per 100K
....
Philadelphia: 21.16 per 100K
Atlanta: 20.68 per 100K
Miami: 16.79 per 100K
Chicago: 15.94 per 100K

For some reason I can't find the data on the FBI site for Chicago for 2010 and 2009, but Philadelphia's rate that year was 19.64 per 100K while the official data site of Chicago for crime (https://data.cityofchicago.org/Publi...ijzp-q8t2/data) has it as 16.14 per 100K that year.
Oh ok, I had no idea.
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Old 01-19-2018, 04:39 PM
 
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STL still at 6 currently. I’m sure some of this is due to the abnormal freezing temps, but a good start so far. Hopefully the trend continues
I remember the first month living here there where only a handful of homicides and all of a sudden all hell broke loose. St Louis can go from zero to 2 million in 5 seconds. I do like the new police chief and his ideas.
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Old 01-20-2018, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Northeast states
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Chicago 22
NYC 14
Baltimore 12
Detroit 9
Philly is at 7 same time in 2017 it was 19
Los Angeles 10
New Orleans 8
Houston 7
Indianapolis 8
San Diego 5

Phoenix, AZ 5
Jacksonville, Florida 8
West Palm Beach, Florida 2
Orlando, Florida 3
Miami, Florida 4
Fort Lauderdale, Florida 2
Tucson, Arizona 5
San Francisco 4
Columbus, Ohio 9
Pittsburgh, PA 3
Charlotte, North Carolina 5
Knoxville, TN 3
Greensboro, NC 1
WINSTON-SALEM, N.C 2
Lexington, KY 1
Fort Myers, Florida 1
Jackson, Mississippi 4
Fort Wayne, Indiana 2
Louisville Metro 7
West Memphis, Arkansas 1
Lubbock, Texas 2


Columbia, South Carolina 2
Sumter, South Carolina 1
Spartanburg, South Carolina 1
Rock Hill, South Carolina 1
North Charleston, South Carolina 1
North Augusta, South Carolina 1
Waterbury, CT 1
North Little Rock, AR 1
New Rochelle, NY 1
Trenton, NJ 2
Duquesne, PA 1
Aventura, FL 1
Homestead, FL 1
Cincinnati 4
Cleveland 6
Columbus, GA 3
Colorado Springs, CO 3
Macon Georgia 1
Kansas City, Missouri 2
Kansas City, Kansas 6
Minneapolis, Minnesota 2
Youngstown Ohio 1
Sharonville, Ohio 1
Norfolk, Virginia 1

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Old 01-20-2018, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Northeast states
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Mobile, AL 4
Albany, New York 1
Rochester, New York 1
Buffalo, New York 1
Allentown, PA 1
Orange, NJ 2
OMAHA, Nebraska 1
Akron, Ohio 2
Las Vegas Metro 8
St Petersburg Florida 1
Tampa, Florida 3
Shreveport, Louisiana 1
Columbia, MO 1
New Haven, CT 2
Bridgeport, CT 1
Hartford, CT 2

Providence, RI 1
Bangor, Maine 1
Denver, CO 4
Gary, Indiana 4
East Chicago Indiana 1
Albuquerque 3
Little Rock, AR 2

Tulsa, Oklahoma 2
Oklahoma City 4
Salt lake City, Utah 1
Portland, Oregon 1
Seattle 2

Pontiac, Michigan 4
Flint, Michigan 3
Grand Rapids, Michigan 3
Lansing, Michigan 1
Dallas 5
Fort Worth, Texas 2
San Antonio, Texas 5
Austin, Texas 2
Boston, MA 4
Washington DC 7
Raleigh, NC 2

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