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New York City 11
Baltimore 11
Columbus, Ohio 8
St. Louis 6
Houston 4
Fort Worth, Texas 2
D.C 2
New Orleans 4
Jackson, Mississippi 3
San Diego 5
Duquesne. PA 1
Dayton, Ohio 2
Indianapolis 7
Louisville Metro 6
Hartford, CT 2
Is that 5 in the city of San Diego or the county/metro?
Brockton, MA 1
San Diego 6---Body found in Encanto Canyon yesterday now a homicide
Memphis 4
East St Louis 2
North Las Vegas 1
Anchorage, Alaska 2
Charlotte, NC 3
Topeka, Ohio 3
Indianapolis 9
I know it's naive but I hope it does, someday I think it'd b nice to see Philly with about 200 Murders a year or less, that would be a major improvement but @ least it's not Chicago or Baltimore so I'm good with that!
Except for the fact that, minus the last few years, Chicago and Philadelphia were basically almost exactly even every year in homicide rate per 100K people for 2013 to 2015 (Philadephia still higher) and before that, Philadelphia was a bit higher than Chicago in homicide rate.
Chicago barely even cracked the top 10 with its insane increase of homicide in 2016. The previous years, Chicago was barely even top 20 highest in rate. Cities like Miami were higher most years. No offense, but the pure fact that you even mention Chicago and Baltimore in the same tier of this stuff shows your lack of understanding what counts, which is the rate - and the fact that Baltimore is most years over 2X the homicide rate of Chicago.
2017 (Not from FBI, but from each's official city source. Using populations from 2016):
2016 (https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...ble-6.xls/view)
St. Louis: 59.78 per 100K
Baltimore: 51.42 per 100K
Detroit: 45.25 per 100K
New Orleans: 43.81 per 100K
... Chicago: 28.07 per 100K
Atlanta: 23.49 per 100K Philadelphia: 17.38 per 100K
Miami: 12.23 per 100K
2015 (https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...tables/table-6)
St. Louis: 59.29 per 100K
Baltimore: 55.37 per 100K
Detroit: 43.82 per 100K
New Orleans: 41.68 per 100K
...
Atlanta: 20.23 per 100K Philadelphia: 17.85 per 100K Chicago: 17.52 per 100K
Miami: 17.12 per 100K
2014 (https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...tables/table-6)
St. Louis: 49.91 per 100K
Detroit: 43.53 per 100K
New Orleans: 38.75 per 100K
Baltimore: 33.84 per 100K
...
Atlanta: 20.47 per 100K
Miami: 19.19 per 100K Philadelphia: 15.91 per 100K Chicago: 15.09 per 100K
2013 (https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...decpdf/table-6)
Detroit: 45.15 per 100K
New Orleans: 41.38
St. Louis: 37.67 per 100K
Baltimore: 37.42 per 100K
....
Atlanta: 18.62 per 100K
Miami: 16.97 per 100K Philadelphia: 15.90 per 100K Chicago: 15.22 per 100K
2012 (https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...decpdf/table-6)
Detroit: 54.59 per 100K
New Orleans: 53.19 per 100K
St. Louis: 35.46 per 100K
Baltimore: 34.85 per 100K
.... Philadelphia: 21.51 per 100K
Atlanta: 18.99 per 100K Chicago: 18.46 per 100K
Miami: 16.65 per 100K
2011 (https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...tables/table-6)
New Orleans: 57.64 per 100K
Detroit: 48.23 per 100K
St. Louis: 35.26 per 100K
Baltimore: 31.27 per 100K
.... Philadelphia: 21.16 per 100K
Atlanta: 20.68 per 100K
Miami: 16.79 per 100K Chicago: 15.94 per 100K
For some reason I can't find the data on the FBI site for Chicago for 2010 and 2009, but Philadelphia's rate that year was 19.64 per 100K while the official data site of Chicago for crime (https://data.cityofchicago.org/Publi...ijzp-q8t2/data) has it as 16.14 per 100K that year.
Except for the fact that, minus the last few years, Chicago and Philadelphia were basically almost exactly even every year in homicide rate per 100K people for 2013 to 2015 (Philadephia still higher) and before that, Philadelphia was a bit higher than Chicago in homicide rate.
Chicago barely even cracked the top 10 with its insane increase of homicide in 2016. The previous years, Chicago was barely even top 20 highest in rate. Cities like Miami were higher most years. No offense, but the pure fact that you even mention Chicago and Baltimore in the same tier of this stuff shows your lack of understanding what counts, which is the rate - and the fact that Baltimore is most years over 2X the homicide rate of Chicago.
2017 (Not from FBI, but from each's official city source. Using populations from 2016):
2016 (https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...ble-6.xls/view)
St. Louis: 59.78 per 100K
Baltimore: 51.42 per 100K
Detroit: 45.25 per 100K
New Orleans: 43.81 per 100K
... Chicago: 28.07 per 100K
Atlanta: 23.49 per 100K Philadelphia: 17.38 per 100K
Miami: 12.23 per 100K
2015 (https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...tables/table-6)
St. Louis: 59.29 per 100K
Baltimore: 55.37 per 100K
Detroit: 43.82 per 100K
New Orleans: 41.68 per 100K
...
Atlanta: 20.23 per 100K Philadelphia: 17.85 per 100K Chicago: 17.52 per 100K
Miami: 17.12 per 100K
2014 (https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...tables/table-6)
St. Louis: 49.91 per 100K
Detroit: 43.53 per 100K
New Orleans: 38.75 per 100K
Baltimore: 33.84 per 100K
...
Atlanta: 20.47 per 100K
Miami: 19.19 per 100K Philadelphia: 15.91 per 100K Chicago: 15.09 per 100K
2013 (https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...decpdf/table-6)
Detroit: 45.15 per 100K
New Orleans: 41.38
St. Louis: 37.67 per 100K
Baltimore: 37.42 per 100K
....
Atlanta: 18.62 per 100K
Miami: 16.97 per 100K Philadelphia: 15.90 per 100K Chicago: 15.22 per 100K
2012 (https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...decpdf/table-6)
Detroit: 54.59 per 100K
New Orleans: 53.19 per 100K
St. Louis: 35.46 per 100K
Baltimore: 34.85 per 100K
.... Philadelphia: 21.51 per 100K
Atlanta: 18.99 per 100K Chicago: 18.46 per 100K
Miami: 16.65 per 100K
2011 (https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...tables/table-6)
New Orleans: 57.64 per 100K
Detroit: 48.23 per 100K
St. Louis: 35.26 per 100K
Baltimore: 31.27 per 100K
.... Philadelphia: 21.16 per 100K
Atlanta: 20.68 per 100K
Miami: 16.79 per 100K Chicago: 15.94 per 100K
For some reason I can't find the data on the FBI site for Chicago for 2010 and 2009, but Philadelphia's rate that year was 19.64 per 100K while the official data site of Chicago for crime (https://data.cityofchicago.org/Publi...ijzp-q8t2/data) has it as 16.14 per 100K that year.
And if you look at the decade, per FBI from 2010-2016, Philadelphia has a slightly higher murder rate of 18.48 compared to 17.93 for Chicago....
I don't know why Philly has this perception of being a safer city than Chicago. For all intents and purposes, as far as violent crime goes, they are the same city, but I guess Chicago's 2015 and 2016 have really helped place some cities, like Philadelphia, in a very positive light. I don't know...
And if you look at the decade, per FBI from 2010-2016, Philadelphia has a slightly higher murder rate of 18.48 compared to 17.93 for Chicago....
I don't know why Philly has this perception of being a safer city than Chicago. For all intents and purposes, as far as violent crime goes, they are the same city, but I guess Chicago's 2015 and 2016 have really helped place some cities, like Philadelphia, in a very positive light. I don't know...
I think you mean 2016 and 2017, not 2015. Philadephia had a higher rate in 2015 than Chicago (barely). The rate in 2016 went out of control in Chicago - the difference went from being less than 1 per 100K to 11 per 100K between the two cities. However, the numbers went down a bit in 2017 for Chicago but went up for Philadelphia, so the 2017 difference was just over 4 per 100K.
People assume that Chicago is more dangerous as an entire entity of a city than it really is. No doubt, there are some really dangerous areas of the city - but IMO that's just like anywhere else. Maybe it's more amplified in Chicago versus a city like NYC, but compared to Baltimore or St. Louis? Here's the thing - Chicago is much, much bigger than those cities. There is a continuous geographical area of Chicago with over 1 million people with a homicide rate of between 3 per 100K and 4 per 100K. If that was its own city, not only would it be one of the largest cities in the US, it would also have one of the lowest homicide rates. That is a big area and population. It's not excusing the behavior, but the reality is that you could totally live in a part of Chicago that is 1 million people and not have to face this type of stuff much. As someone who lived in Chicago for a bit, this is a fact and watching the nightly news depending on where you live can make you feel like you're watching a completely separate city. It's night and day - this is how a lot of people live. Conversely, there are many people who live in dangerous areas of the city who never get to areas like downtown or other safe parts who also think they're watching another city when they talk about non crime related things on the news.
Apart from that side bar, the thing is that Chicago's other violent crimes are still not as high as people think. The truth is that obviously homicide affects everyone's life, but things like robbery and assault are incredibly more likely to happen anywhere - including areas with 0 homicide - than homicide. People who look at an area with 0 homicide and just assume they're automatically safe are missing the point.
Detroit: 1475.65 per 100K
Memphis: 1223.12 per 100K
St. Louis: 1156.10 per 100K
Kansas City: 1145.78 per 100K
Stockton, CA: 979.09 per 100K
Milwaukee: 883.05 per 100K
Baltimore: 833.95 per 100K
Indianapolis: 819.41 per 100K
Wichita: 803.27 per 100K
Toledo, OH: 777.03 per 100K
Nashville: 723.96 per 100K
Anchorage: 721.17 per 100K
Tulsa: 701.17 per 100K
Albuquerque: 684.88 per 100K
Buffalo: 625.76 per 100K
Oakland: 616.71 per 100K
Atlanta: 593.33 per 100K Chicago: 580.33 per 100K
Washington DC: 572.10 per 100K
Orlando: 550.56 per 100K
Houston: 534.92 per 100K
Miami: 534.19 per 100K
New Orleans: 526.93 per 100K
Oklahoma City: 524.87 per 100K Philadelphia: 496.75 per 100K
New York City: 360.74 per 100K
It is! It's just having a bad year I guess, but it might quiet down eventually. (One can only hope)!
At this current rate San Diego would be on pace to have 120-140 for the year. There hasn't been a year in decades (since the early 90's) that the city had more than 70. It was averaging in the 50's. Hopefully it's not a new trend. Seeing as Tijuana set a new record last year, hopefully some of the activity is not spilling over to this side of the border, especially with the cartels trafficking.
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