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View Poll Results: Which city is sixth most important in the nation?
Atlanta 36 14.69%
Boston 78 31.84%
Dallas 39 15.92%
Houston 39 15.92%
Miami 8 3.27%
Philadelphia 28 11.43%
Seattle 17 6.94%
Other (specify one thread) 0 0%
Voters: 245. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-21-2020, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Seems like city data finds Boston sixth and Houston 7th. It’s time to skip into the 8, which I predict Atlanta will win.
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Old 03-21-2020, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Flawduh
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Seems like city data finds Boston sixth and Houston 7th. It’s time to skip into the 8, which I predict Atlanta will win.
Huh?
You have Houston and Atlanta reversed.
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Old 03-21-2020, 09:50 PM
 
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Huh?
You have Houston and Atlanta reversed.
Not really. Without Boston as an option, I'm pretty sure alot of those votes would go to Houston.
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Old 03-21-2020, 09:58 PM
 
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Me thinks Boston.
I does, too!
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Old 03-21-2020, 10:19 PM
 
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Oil is important, but it's still just a commodity. That's the only really major Houston claim.

For example, Seattle is much bigger in military (though a few down the list), tech (#2), and medical research (far more federal dollars, and also a lot of Gates dollars). On this list it might be second from last as the survey says.

Atlanta and Dallas have good cases for #7 also, as two huge centers for office jobs (heavy in the middle-wage sectors), and as huge regional and logistical centers supported by freeway webs and giant airports. I don't know much about Philly's case, though it's bigger in education than its image suggests.
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Old 03-22-2020, 05:15 AM
 
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Houston because of the energy sector.
At $25/barrel, it’s West Virginia.
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Old 03-22-2020, 05:22 AM
 
Location: Flawduh
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Not really. Without Boston as an option, I'm pretty sure alot of those votes would go to Houston.
His post is suggesting we just skip straight to a poll for number 8, essentially defeating the purpose of these polls to begin with, as, right now, Boston is 6th with Atlanta as the runner up. We can draw conclusions when a poll for #7 exists — right now, given these results, his post makes no sense.
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Old 03-22-2020, 05:25 AM
 
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I think Boston because of the education level that is so critical in the 21st century global economy. It receives far more venture capital than any of the other cities on the list so the lead in intellectual property creation is going to only increase. Seattle is on a similar trajectory but is smaller. 30 years from now, it could be in contention for the same reason.
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Old 03-22-2020, 07:00 AM
 
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n.y.c., and l.a. are the only trillion dollar metros. all the other top 10 are effectively tied for 3rd.
anyone committing d.c. to #4 or s.f. to #5 are just being homers:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...n_areas_by_GDP

theres 333 billion dollars separating #2 and #3; and, 333 billion dollars separating #3 and #10.
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Old 03-22-2020, 08:26 AM
 
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Oil is important, but it's still just a commodity. That's the only really major Houston claim.

For example, Seattle is much bigger in military (though a few down the list), tech (#2), and medical research (far more federal dollars, and also a lot of Gates dollars). On this list it might be second from last as the survey says.

Atlanta and Dallas have good cases for #7 also, as two huge centers for office jobs (heavy in the middle-wage sectors), and as huge regional and logistical centers supported by freeway webs and giant airports. I don't know much about Philly's case, though it's bigger in education than its image suggests.
The things you mention go Atl and DFW you could also mention for a hissy of other cities. For example you say Atl and DFW area huge centers for office jobs, but isn't Houston just as big (and for the first half of the decade posted larger job numbers than everyone else).

You say they are logistics hubs, but so is Houston, Phoenix, Seattle, LA, NY Chicago, New Orleans.
You say the hubs are supported by huge airports and freeways like those are the only two cities with huge airports.
ATL and DFW may be busier airports but Houston does have two major international airports, a system of seaports that is one of the busiest in the works by tonnage AND it's web of highways is just as good as DFW and better than ATL.

You diminish oil as a comodity but failing to see that energy is far more than oil. Anyway, even just focusing on comodities Oil is an internationally important economy. A layover at Hatfield is not. See the diminishing can go both ways. Houston is an integral part of the energy center but a single airport is my no means integral to the travel industry.

And talking about the travel industry, many of you are looking at the drop in oil prices but shutting your eyes to the hits on airline travel. Heck all industries are being affected now.

Anyway, my point is that you Atlanta and DFW lack flagship economies. ATL' s airport numbers are based on a lack of nearby competition. Cities like NY, London, DC, LA, even Chicago and SF have multiple major airports.
Houston on the other hand has international flagship industries in Energy, Manufacturing and shipping.

NY, Boston, SF, Chicago, DC, LA all have international economies and diverse international populations. Houston, Philadelphia, Seattle and Miami would come next in terms of cities most entrenched in international economies and diverse international residents. Yeah Hatfield has the huge numbers but IAH does the same job by providing flights to every single continent on the planet.

Leading a region is important for that region but that just makes it a regional hub. ATL and DFW area regional hubs. Houston and Boston are beyond that. Like the Top 5 they are globally important cities.
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