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Old 01-27-2021, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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There are some smaller metro areas that have more high rises: Miami, Houston, SF...
Seattle has an impressive skyline for a city/metro it’s size. Atlanta has a good sized skyline that’s comparable to Dallas’ even though it’s a smaller city in a smaller metro.

I don’t think Dallas has a small skyline though. There’s buildings all around and it continues to grow.
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Old 01-27-2021, 02:43 PM
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Location: Houston, TX/Detroit, MI
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There are some smaller metro areas that have more high rises: Miami, Houston, SF...
Seattle has an impressive skyline for a city/metro it’s size. Atlanta has a good sized skyline that’s comparable to Dallas’ even though it’s a smaller city in a smaller metro.

I don’t think Dallas has a small skyline though. There’s buildings all around and it continues to grow.
I think it depends how you measure it. DFW is so multipolar which is not the case in Atlanta or Houston. The metropolitan division is 4.5 million. Seattle is a good comparison, the others not so much.
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Old 01-27-2021, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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Well metro division is not really a valid point. And Fort Worth doesn’t have over 3million people. Many of the cities included in the FW division are clearly part of Dallas as well. In 2021, you really can’t divide DFW.
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Old 01-27-2021, 02:49 PM
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Well metro division is not really a valid point. And Fort Worth doesn’t have over 3million people. Many of the cities included in the FW division are clearly part of Dallas as well. In 2021, you really can’t divide DFW.
You cant, but again, its multipolar. Houston and Atlanta are not. Seattle really isnt either. Miami is.
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Old 01-27-2021, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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You could argue that places like Houston and Atlanta are still designed in the same sunbelt manner with multiple business nodes just like DFW.
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Old 01-27-2021, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Well metro division is not really a valid point. And Fort Worth doesn’t have over 3million people. Many of the cities included in the FW division are clearly part of Dallas as well. In 2021, you really can’t divide DFW.
Two different things. Metro area calculations are opinions. No measurement is perfect. Some insist on MSA some CSA some metro division, some urban area. I generally prefer urban area as a measurement though that one doesn’t wind up being perfect either. There’s an obvious gap between anchors in DFW regardless of the measurement used and that affects the demand for high rises. High rises aren’t built by looking at metro populations. They are built where there is demand for one.
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Old 01-27-2021, 03:26 PM
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You could argue that places like Houston and Atlanta are still designed in the same sunbelt manner with multiple business nodes just like DFW.
Apples and oranges. You have two anchor cities vs. just one in the other.
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Old 01-27-2021, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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Two different things. Metro area calculations are opinions. No measurement is perfect. Some insist on MSA some CSA some metro division, some urban area. I generally prefer urban area as a measurement though that one doesn’t wind up being perfect either. There’s an obvious gap between anchors in DFW regardless of the measurement used and that affects the demand for high rises
Define gap.
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Old 01-27-2021, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Define gap.
Dallas gap Fort Worth. It’s not rocket science
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Old 01-27-2021, 03:47 PM
 
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You cant, but again, its multipolar. Houston and Atlanta are not. Seattle really isnt either. Miami is.
Houston is just as multipolar as DFW.
The city limits are a non factor in this case.
What does matter is that there are a dozen employment centers in both metros.
The Fact that Greenspoint and the energy corridor, City center, and greenspoint are still in the city limits are not relevant because it's not like you have to go over a wall or through a gate to traverse city limits.
The distance from Houston's Downtown to these employment centers are probably further than to Irving, and probably even Plano.

DFW is more centralized than Houston. But both are very much multipolar.
Uptown, the Energy Corridor, TMC, TW and Sugarland are very distinct areas of commerce and some of them have Skylines that would give mid sized cities a run for their money.

I don't think Dallas Skyline is small for its size though.
I just think the metro is just not as centralized as Atlanta and Houston and far from constrained as Miami.


Dallas is Corporate Campus king. It's another reason why I think Austin will soon have more 400fters.
We can sit here bad talking suburban style campuses but it is a big selling point for most companies that move to DFW, it is a lot cheaper and not everyone wants the hassle of traffic driving into town.

Campuses like that ExxonMobil campus in Spring looks like a mini city itself.
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