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View Poll Results: Which city is the fourth most important in the nation?
San Francisco 118 25.00%
Washington D.C. 217 45.97%
Boston 63 13.35%
Houston 74 15.68%
Voters: 472. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-11-2010, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Denver
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Dude, I kind of feel sorry for you. Your view of diversity is so narrow its not even funny. If you cannot tell the difference between someone from Germany and Portugal then you have not traveled much.

As someone who is Jamaican myself, I would find it insulting if people grouped me in with other West Indians just because we may "look the same" or come from the same Region of the Caribbean. So I would never group all white people together as one, because the difference between European cultures are very extreme in many cases.
Wait a minute...you're from Boston, but you're not white?! You just rocked jluke's world!
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Old 03-11-2010, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Northridge, Los Angeles, CA
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Just for kicks, I'm adding the demographic progression of Houston and Boston (city limits only!) from 1970 to today (source: http://www.census.gov/population/www.../twps0076.html)

Houston 1970
62.4% White
25.7% Black
11.3% Hispanic (Spanish Origin, using 15% sample)
0.8% Other (incl. AAPI and American Indian)

Houston 1980
52.3% White
27.6% Black
17.6% Hispanic
2.2% Asian

Houston 1990
40.6% White
28.1% Black
27.6% Hispanic
4.1% Asian

Houston 2000 (source: Houston city, Texas - DP-1. Profile of General Demographic Characteristics:**2000)
37.4% Hispanic
30.8% White
25.9% Black
5.9% Asian and Pacific Islander

Houston 2008
41.9% Hispanic
27.9% White
23.8% Black
5.4% Asian and Pacific Islander

It's pretty clear that Houston has switched from being a majority white city to soon becoming a majority Hispanic city. In that case, I would argue that diversity is in fact decreasing, since Latin Americans are making up a larger and larger proportion of the city limits. The best balance that Houston had was in 2000.

Boston 1970
79.5% White
16.3% Black
2.8% Hispanic
1.6% Other

Boston 1980
67.9% White
22.4% Black
6.5% Hispanic
2.7% Asian and Pacific Islander

Boston 1990
59.0% White
25.6% Black
10.8% Hispanic
5.3% Asian and Pacific Islander

Boston 2000
49.5% White
27.7% Black
14.4% Hispanic
8.4% Asian and Pacific Islander

Boston 2008
50.6% White
21.7% Black
16.1% Hispanic
8.2% Asian and Pacific Islander

Boston has transformed from a pretty majority White (albeit Irish and Italian) city to a majority-minority city (although Whites are moving back into the center city). Isn't that transformation just as impressive as Houston, since Boston never had a racial minority population to begin with? Look at how the Asian and Hispanic population EXPLODED, from statistically insignificant (4% combined in 1970) to a quarter of the city. That says something as well.

This goes to show you that many, if not most American center cities are becoming less and less white. I hesitate to use the word 'diverse' because in many cases, its one population switching with another (in California especially, its either White or Black cities becoming majority Hispanic or majority Asian). No one has a monopoly on diversity. NO ONE!
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Old 03-11-2010, 10:30 AM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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LOL at you thinking diversity in Houston is decreasing. Quite the opposite. And I think most (I know I was) wasn't looking at just percentages at the major groups, but going deeper and looking at what countries people came from, also.
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Old 03-11-2010, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Houston's Hispanic population is majority Mexican but there is a large Salvadoran, Colombian, Venezuelen, and Panamanian population. There is also a sprinkle of a Cuban community. I've read that Puerto Ricans are the fastest growing community out of the Hispanics in Houston this past decade.
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Old 03-11-2010, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Northridge, Los Angeles, CA
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LOL at you thinking diversity in Houston is decreasing. Quite the opposite. And I think most (I know I was) wasn't looking at just percentages at the major groups, but going deeper and looking at what countries people came from, also.
Unless you produce the mathematical evidence of the breakdown of each group (including the 'White' group, which I for a fact know is impossible because the US Census keeps poor records of that), then you have to live with the data that exists and that is Houston is decreasing in diversity.

You make the index if you feel that you're not satisfied.

If you assume one thing is happening in Houston, you have to keep the door open that the same processes are happening in other cities, including Boston (which is what is being compared here). Boston, for a long time, had only one way to go in diversity and that is up. Houston MATHEMATICALLY can only decrease in diversity, unless you somehow think less white = more diversity (spurious conclusion because an omission of a part doesn't make the whole any more valid).

Anyways, here's my position again

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This goes to show you that many, if not most American center cities are becoming less and less white. I hesitate to use the word 'diverse' because in many cases, its one population switching with another (in California especially, its either White or Black cities becoming majority Hispanic or majority Asian). No one has a monopoly on diversity. NO ONE![LEFT]

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Old 03-11-2010, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA & Istanbul, Turkey
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Wait a minute...you're from Boston, but you're not white?! You just rocked jluke's world!
Shocker of the year! So if you see a "non-white" guy walking down the street sometimes Tmac just say hi cause its probably me! Since apparently there are none of "us" here in Boston.
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Old 03-11-2010, 02:33 PM
 
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Cultural: Washington, District of Columbia
Economic: Houston, Texas (capital of the American oil industry)

Huh?
D.C. culturally more important than San Fran, Boston? Im not even sure it's more culturally important than Houston. Sure, it has museums and relics of our national culture, but it isnt known for producing any of its own.
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Old 03-11-2010, 02:38 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Shocker of the year! So if you see a "non-white" guy walking down the street sometimes Tmac just say hi cause its probably me! Since apparently there are none of "us" here in Boston.
I'm actually going to go to Boston and try to introduce the term Cart24 as a racial slur for anyone who is not white. It's going to be awesome.

All those Cart24s moving into my neighborhood, talking their Cart24-ese and opening up their Cart24 shops are destroying my community!
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Old 03-11-2010, 02:39 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Huh?
D.C. culturally more important than San Fran, Boston? Im not even sure it's more culturally important than Houston. Sure, it has museums and relics of our national culture, but it isnt known for producing any of its own.
You can argue that social policies formed and legislated there could be a part of culture. An even better argument would be that the amount of media produced there has a large cultural influence. There's also some pretty sweet music that's come out of DC and its environs.
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Old 03-11-2010, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Boston
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I'm not sure why people keep saying Atlanta has a large cultural influence. Being a black mecca is one thing; however, blacks across the country are doing their own thing and not following the last trends of Black ATLiens.
Atlanta has Coke. That is huge!
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