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Maybe 5 miles (probably closer to 10 miles) east of the outer loop (or the tollway) at least 20-25 miles from Downtown Houston. Re-affirms my point actually when I went back to the map, there are areas that would be within the outer loop or tollway in relative distance that are excluded from the Philly MSA, Pasadena would be miles into what the census considers the next MSA here. It is beyond rediculous
The Woodlands are further than what the census considers 4 seperate MSAs here
You try, but you really don't know what you're talking about here. The Port of Houston starts just a couple of miles east of Downtown. The original Port of Houston (now Allen's Landing), is basically in Downtown. And The Woodlands to Downtown is about 30 miles apart.
You try, but you really don't know what you're talking about here. The Port of Houston starts just a couple of miles east of Downtown. The original Port of Houston (now Allen's Landing), is basically in Downtown. And The Woodlands to Downtown is about 30 miles apart.
Yes 30 miles and the part a few miles east is where the bulk of port activities take place? seriously?
And what is basically downtown? walking distance? If the vast majority of shipping for Houston is downtown (so please correct me if that is the case) then I will admit my error but Galveston and Woodlands are also areas that people associated with Houston from what I understand, again my point there are major areas in half that distance that are excluded here.
Still, that is just one part of the massive Port of Houston, specifically one of the 5 major general cargo ternimals.
ok, and after reading the vast majority of activity is closer to this area and baytown, even part of the old Glaveston port but again would you agree strongly apart of the Houston Economy? areas that far are just cut off here which was my original point, they are part of the everyday here but just dismissed by the census cuts, really the point. I guess as tiresome as our (or mine spefically are) are the notion that Houston surpassed Philadephia is annoying, in real life Houston is still considerably smaller so it gets annoying hearing everybody discuss, there are literally over a million people here closer than the woodlands that the census just excludes, and about 600K as close (literally 11 miles) or closer than Pasadena, it is just so odd how they count the people, especially when a number of them were moved on a technicality (Yes the interplay with NYC based on the census is 1/3rd that of Philly but they still moved anyway) to qualify for a COL increase adjusted for those who made the decision
btw - the boat tour does look cool given by the port authority, may check it out next time I am in Houston
No I have them correct and the vast majority of Port operations are on the other side of the Tollway, not the loop
What does it matter where the vast majority of operations are (and the Tollway and East Loop are NOT the same thing)?? The Port of Houston still starts just a few miles east of Downtown.
Washington isnt a city in the true sense of the word, rather its a governmental inbred commune where million dollar museums and billion + trillion dollar federal contracts are handed out with shocking regularity. It's a joke to compare Washington to a historical selfmade juggernaut like Philadelphia. Washington shouldnt be the capitol . Washington is nothing but a stage prop for all the history that happened in real cities such as Philadelphia New York Boston and Baltimore. This is a travesty what is going on in DC with Ivory Castle mentality. Go build another $300 M dollar museum in DC while cities that built this country like Detroit,Flint and Toledo crumble in ruins. Unbelievable.
My God this is the epitome of jealousy and sour grapes.
What does it matter where the vast majority of operations are (and the Tollway and East Loop are NOT the same thing)?? The Port of Houston still starts just a few miles east of Downtown.
Yes I know, the inner loop is I believe 610 and the tollaway is further (I said Tollway in reference to the busiest part of the port which is the eastern side of Pasadena, that would be outside the tollway, correct?)
Matter, it is the point, the economic activities added are 25 miles away (well the majority of port activity is) and is the point where other metros have majors dollars and populataion excluded at that distance.
Is the premis I believe the Census and related GMP for Philly are under-respresented by 33% based on this.
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