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-Third most most populated downtown, behind only NYC and Chi
-One of only three cities with over a mil at over 10,000ppsm, the other two being NYC and Chicago
-Fourth largest urban area
-Fourth largest media market
-Fourth largest GDP
-SEPTA is one of only two U.S. transit authorities that operates all of the five major types of transit vehicles: regional (commuter) rail trains, "heavy" rapid transit (subway/elevated) trains, light rail vehicles (trolleys), electric trolleybuses and motor buses. The other is Boston's Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority (which runs ferryboat service as well.
-In the top three for higher education.
-Most historic city
etc.
I think we'll just have to agree to disagree here.
One thing we can agree with would probably be this: that the top 8 most important areas of the country are (in no particular order)- New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, Washington DC, Bay Area, Boston, Houston, & Atlanta.
What about SoFlo, Philly, and Detroit?
most important in this order.
1. NYC
2. LA
3. Chicago
4. DC
5. Houston
6. Philly
7. Boston
8. Miami
9. DFW
10. Detroit
11. San Jose
12. SanFran
Television news programs certainly aren't the Bay Area's strong point (it's not really Los Angeles's strong point either; Atlanta should get third; NYC and DC get coverage for obvious reasons). Television in general was never the Bay Area's strong point. However, you did send us a youtube link.
-Third most most populated downtown, behind only NYC and Chi
-One of only three cities with over a mil at over 10,000ppsm, the other two being NYC and Chicago
-Fourth largest urban area
-Fourth largest media market
-Fourth largest GDP
-SEPTA is one of only two U.S. transit authorities that operates all of the five major types of transit vehicles: regional (commuter) rail trains, "heavy" rapid transit (subway/elevated) trains, light rail vehicles (trolleys), electric trolleybuses and motor buses. The other is Boston's Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority (which runs ferryboat service as well.
-In the top three for higher education.
-Most historic city
etc.
You could make a strong case for Philly.
You might be able to make a strong case for Philly, but the only thing you've proven is that it's big. We've already said that while GDPs are important, they aren't the be-all, end-all of the "importance" discussion. You're totally forgetting to mentino the fact that Philadelphia is a pharma powerhouse and is currently ranked the #2 life sciences center in the nation. They just jumped the Bay Area last year, but still trail Boston.
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Originally Posted by killakoolaide
What about SoFlo, Philly, and Detroit?
most important in this order.
1. NYC
2. LA
3. Chicago
4. DC
5. Houston
6. Philly
7. Boston
8. Miami
9. DFW
10. Detroit
11. San Jose
12. SanFran
Your anti-Bay Area attitude is bordering on pathetic.
I think we'll just have to agree to disagree here.
One thing we can agree with would probably be this: that the top 8 most important areas of the country are (in no particular order)- New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, Washington DC, Bay Area, Boston, Houston, & Atlanta.
Do you feel Miami, Philadelphia, and Detroit are arguable cases?
Do you feel Miami, Philadelphia, and Detroit are arguable cases?
I've always wondered: what does Miami bring to the table besides the connections to Latin America? (Not that the Latin American connection isn't important) I feel like basically all its importance comes from cultural influence and being the US HQ for Latin companies.
Why does that mean it should be put into the same category as Boston, SF, Houston, or Atlanta in terms of national importance?
Can we finally just write off Detroit? The American auto-industry is on life support and that appears to be all Detroit has to offer...
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Do you feel Miami, Philadelphia, and Detroit are arguable cases?
In certain aspects yes. But I am thinking more into a global stratosphere.
Miami- Latin American nations, has absolutely small connections to Asian economic powerhouses & weak on European economic activities.
Detroit- They have a good amount of influence still and they rightfully should, economically they still put up a large output, but that doesn't tell the whole story. Their sphere of influence has been diminishing as the years go by.
Philadelphia- I feel they are a large regional power, but they don't have that appeal to say Asia, Europe, Latin America as many of their competitors do. They have a good pharmacy base, but again, IMO I don't see them being global powers now or the future.
And all that may sound harsh, but honestly it's my opinion, take it with a grain of salt, and we should all be fine.
Boston, what separates it from Philadelphia is it's global involvement in finance, and global involvement in education and medical research among the top in the world. Boston is also one of the most connected cities to it's European counterparts, which is a strong connection to have.
Houston, Latin America's gateway cargo port, projections of port activity increasing by 27% after the 2014 Panama Canal extension goes through, and number one trader with Latin America, and has exponentially increased trade with China as well due to lower costs.
Oil & Gas leads connections to Middle Eastern nations like United Arab Emirates and how much collaboration they have. There are some from U.A.E who have been investing in real estate in Houston lately as well, one has a project lined up for a supertall but it's only in the pre-proposal stages. So there are a lot of real estate and oil & gas connections there.
Just my opinion though. I think more about Present- Future than Past- Present. I guess it's because I don't like history all that much and the old news bores me, old accomplishments bore me, I want to see the new and whats going to happen more than what already has. Places with an increase in strength interest me more. But I do also hope Detroit bounces back on its feet and stabilizes, that is something I would love to see.
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Originally Posted by tmac9wr
I've always wondered: what does Miami bring to the table besides the connections to Latin America? (Not that the Latin American connection isn't important) I feel like basically all its importance comes from cultural influence and being the US HQ for Latin companies.
Why does that mean it should be put into the same category as Boston, SF, Houston, or Atlanta in terms of national importance?
Can we finally just write off Detroit? The American auto-industry is on life support and that appears to be all Detroit has to offer...
Actually no dude, Detroit has some strong connections to Asia. I learned form LAnative10 actually they output more than DFW & Houston when it comes to Asian flight services and it is because of the auto-industry.
I do agree though Detroit is a diminishing force but presently I feel it still deserves top 10. More than Miami at least.
And YES! Finally someone that agrees with me on Miami economically!
Do you feel Miami, Philadelphia, and Detroit are arguable cases?
Yes. South Florida is an economic powerhouse. Even though the city of Detroit has fallen far its metro is still very significant. Philly's cultural and economic impact is obvious.
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