Battle of "number five" US cities:SF, Houston or Boston? (live, best)
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You do realize that 19k from a city of 1.5M is a far greater percentage than 27k from a city of 8M. To be equivalent, NYC would have to send over 100k people here annually. Do you get it now?
The migration numbers pertain to metro not city.
Per Capita Movers? Is that we are going to call this?
I guess you missed the links I posted where PA is among the 10 best public school systems in the country, where CA is among the 10 worst. What's the good of having 33 good schools when the rest sucks balls.
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Haha your ranking looks really silly compared to this:
Average SAT scores among states with a test participation rate over 50%
New Hampshire 1566
Massachusetts 1556
Vermont 1554
Virginia 1530
Connecticut 1525
Washington 1522 California 1505
Arkansas 1485
North Carolina 1483 Pennsylvania 1480
Indiana 1474
Maryland 1468
New York 1468
Hawaii 1460
Nevada 1458
Florida 1448
Georgia 1445
South Carolina 1443
Texas 1432
Maine 1387
Idaho 1384
Delaware 1359
District of Columbia 1309
You do realize that 19k from a city of 1.5M is a far greater percentage than 27k from a city of 8M. To be equivalent, NYC would have to send over 100k people here annually. Do you get it now?
Regardless of population proportion, Philly is still receiving a net inbound of metro New Yorkers. A net plus is a net plus.
Not to mention, even if you apply the "per capita" migration metric to the migration patterns for the top 10 metro areas (metro-to-metro migration), you'll quickly see that plenty of other cities don't receive proportionate inbound-outbound flows from/to New York (in fact, San Francisco even has a net loss to New York).
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Originally Posted by 18Montclair
Haha your ranking looks really silly compared to this:
Average SAT scores among states with a test participation rate over 50%
New Hampshire 1566
Massachusetts 1556
Vermont 1554
Virginia 1530
Connecticut 1525
Washington 1522 California 1505
Arkansas 1485
North Carolina 1483 Pennsylvania 1480
Indiana 1474
Maryland 1468
New York 1468
Hawaii 1460
Nevada 1458
Florida 1448
Georgia 1445
South Carolina 1443
Texas 1432
Maine 1387
Idaho 1384
Delaware 1359
District of Columbia 1309
I responded with a list of public high schools that have an average SAT score of 1800+, California having 33 while PA only has 2.
Then he responds with some random ranking of states by quality of K-12 education, which apparently put PA near the top and CA near the bottom.
To which I posted statewide SAT average scores which shows CA beating not only PA, but also MD and NY-my point being, fluffy rankings are okay, but the SAT is far more indicative of success because the SAT/ ACT is the test whose results are used as a gage by colleges and universities to determine admission. Its the culmination of skills and knowledge acquired by a student in the K-12 environment.
My guess is Q forgot or didn't realize the average SAT thing was also posted in that other thread and that he thought your argument in that other thread was CA > MA re: k-12 and so the avg SAT thing would run counter to your point since MA is higher than CA.. but your argument was really something along the lines of CA = MA re: k-12 and Bay Area = or slightly > than Boston re: k-12.
Haha your ranking looks really silly compared to this:
Average SAT scores among states with a test participation rate over 50%
New Hampshire 1566
Massachusetts 1556
Vermont 1554
Virginia 1530
Connecticut 1525
Washington 1522 California 1505
Arkansas 1485
North Carolina 1483 Pennsylvania 1480
Indiana 1474
Maryland 1468
New York 1468
Hawaii 1460
Nevada 1458
Florida 1448
Georgia 1445
South Carolina 1443
Texas 1432
Maine 1387
Idaho 1384
Delaware 1359
District of Columbia 1309
Lol at SAT scores. Also funny how you adjusted the numbers slightly. California is at 1504 and PA is at 1481. That's literally a 23 point difference and California is 3 places higher than PA. Wow, that's really make or break. SAT scores have very little bearing on a students college career. In fact, most schools either don't consider the SAT anymore or it's a small factor in the student's overall admission or denial.
You're not going to get into a good college if you go to a **** high school and get **** grades and then crush the SAT. Same thing if you go to a good high school in a good school district and get good grades/have a high GPA then bomb the SAT or do average, you're still going to get into a good school. SAT's just aren't that important anymore.
Just face it. CA is a good state but this is one thing it's lackluster at - public school districts.
Lol at SAT scores. Also funny how you adjusted the numbers slightly. California is at 1504 and PA is at 1481. That's literally a 23 point difference and California is 3 places higher than PA. Wow, that's really make or break. SAT scores have very little bearing on a students college career. In fact, most schools either don't consider the SAT anymore or it's a small factor in the student's overall admission or denial.
You're not going to get into a good college if you go to a **** high school and get **** grades and then crush the SAT. Same thing if you go to a good high school in a good school district and get good grades/have a high GPA then bomb the SAT or do average, you're still going to get into a good school. SAT's just aren't that important anymore.
Just face it. CA is a good state but this is one thing it's lackluster at - public school districts.
GPA is important but its a local perspective that can be skewed. The SAT is the exact same test taken by everyone across the country, so for California to actually beat PA, MD and NY, not to mention FL and TX, really does throw a wrench on every little ranking you posted.
Otherwise, why does Pennsylvania only have 2 high schools with an average SAT score of 1800+ while California has 33?
California's K-12 system is clearly underrated and has become the whipping boy of not only neocon CA haters but also East Coast snobbery, which I always knew was erroneous.
18Monty you do realize that list isn't an actually a ranking of schools based on academic quality? Like you are trying to imply UC San Deigo is a better overall school than Penn?
UC SB is more on par with Leigh (Both great schools) but here is the actual ranking:
Oh and btw sometimes overall rankings are very meaningless because programs vary greatly internally within an institution.
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