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View Poll Results: Which of these American cities do you believe has a worldwide influence?
Philadelphia 31 19.25%
Boston 45 27.95%
New York City 127 78.88%
Providence 2 1.24%
Austin 3 1.86%
Chicago 78 48.45%
Seattle 23 14.29%
Los Angeles 110 68.32%
San Francisco 73 45.34%
Salt Lake City 5 3.11%
Albuquerque 5 3.11%
St. Louis 3 1.86%
Houston 34 21.12%
Minneapolis 4 2.48%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 161. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-30-2009, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Miami/ Washington DC
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The cities highlighted are not commonly known abroad.

as far as most known:
1. New York City
2. Los Angeles
3. San Fransico
4. Orlando/Las Vegas--(Disney World, Casinos) tourism
5. Miami/Washington D.C.
6. Philadelphia
7. Boston
8. Chicago
Really Vegas and Orlando over DC and Miami and Chicago and Boston???? How do you figure this? Just because a few Britis Tourist go to Disney World and some Midwest Tourist go to Las Vegas does not make it influential. Look a the airport stats alone and that will tell you Vegas and Orlando do not compete with any of the cities on that list internationally.

Any how this was a pretty bad list. To have Salt Lake City and Albuquerque and no Atlanta, DC or Miami? What kind of list is that. Why are those cities along with Providence, Austin and St. Louis even on the list to begin with?
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Old 12-30-2009, 07:47 PM
 
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My order:

NYC
LA
San Fran
Chicago


I would put DC on there as well. At least from my 20+ countries i've bumed around in while overseas those were the ones people generally knew. Still though, most people can't tell you more than a few key words for most places. NYC - big buildings, huge. LA - beach, orange county and celebs. San Fran - golden gate, lots of hills, liberal and beautiful. Chicago - cold in winter, tons of tall buildings, pretty lakefront, very "American".
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Old 12-30-2009, 09:28 PM
 
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Really Vegas and Orlando over DC and Miami and Chicago and Boston???? How do you figure this? Just because a few Britis Tourist go to Disney World and some Midwest Tourist go to Las Vegas does not make it influential. Look a the airport stats alone and that will tell you Vegas and Orlando do not compete with any of the cities on that list internationally.

Any how this was a pretty bad list. To have Salt Lake City and Albuquerque and no Atlanta, DC or Miami? What kind of list is that. Why are those cities along with Providence, Austin and St. Louis even on the list to begin with?
The problem is that if the OP means which city has a significantly worldwide influence none of these are candidate with the exception of New York, Los Angeles and then to lesser extent Miami with South America and maybe Houston.

when it comes to the cities having a worldwide influence meaning worldwide known, then you can bet that Disney world in Orlando and Las Vegas is well known around the whole world, then Miami with D.C. as well... it really depends on the country though, in Asia Miami is definitetively not going to be as popular as it is in Europe and same goes with D.C. it probably has more influence and more known in Europe.
I just figured possibly Las Vegas and Orlando might rank higher due to the wide variety of tourism that goes there, Las Vegas for the huge amount of Casinos and being such a party city and then Orlando with Disney World with surely gets a lot of promotion... But maybe Miami does take some advantage over them but probably not by a lot...
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Old 12-30-2009, 09:47 PM
 
Location: metro ATL
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Wait a minute, why in the world is ABQ even an option, especially at the exclusion of DC? Are you serious?
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Old 12-30-2009, 10:01 PM
 
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^^ and to show what a Joke certain people make of this website they actually vote for it...
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Old 12-30-2009, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Culturally I think the Bay may have Chicago beat...but I think the corporate significance of Chicago may be getting ignored a bit by the Bay Area forumers.

The CME is far more important than any single entity in the Bay Area (in my opinion). Hedging strategies are used by way of the CME by companies from San Francisco to Nebraska to New York to London to Beijing to Johannesburg and beyond. From the smallest farmer to the largest MNC, hedging is very important.

Apple produces iPods, computers, etc...but where are they hedging material prices in order to stabilize the volatility of costs and keep their bottom line green? The CME. Successful hedging may be one of the most important and vital parts of a company's business strategy...and it's implemented by basically every major company on the planet.

These strategies won't show up in Chicago's GDP...but they will in San Francisco's. So in effect, thanks to the CME--and Chicago--we see the GDPs of our cities grow.

It's easy to forget about the CME since it's not advertised to Joe Blow...but it's very important. You can see San Francisco's influence more than Chicago's when you're walking down the street. But just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's there.
What a great post! I tried to rep you, but I cant. Anyway, I would put Chicago and L.A in the same league for this very reason. Chicago has a huge economic punch in the global economy, but most, including myself until fairly recently, were entirely clueless about it.

New York


Chicago/L.A
San Francisco
Washington D.C
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Old 12-30-2009, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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I guess we took the OP's question to mean what cities are most well known internationally?

My answer is: All of them.

How stupid do you guys think people outside of this country are? They pretty much know where ALL of these cities are and what they are well known for. Every single one (with the exception of Albuquerque and maybe Providence).

It's laughable to think people only know New York, LA, SF, Boston, and DC. People outside of this country aren't clueless about other countries like Americans are.
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Old 12-30-2009, 11:29 PM
 
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Definitely Albuquerque lol. Neighborhoods like Old Town, Nob Hill, and Sandia Heights are known all over New Mexico! After Albuquerque, I'd say Sacramento, Spokane, Louisville, and Ft. Walton Beach. Then maybe New York... ha ha ha

For real though, it'd be NYC, DC, LA, Chicago, Philly, Houston, San Francisco, Dallas, Miami, and Seattle. As far as influencing, I'd chop Miami and Seattle off this list...
Naw I'd leave Miami on. For it's influence on Latin America.
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Old 12-31-2009, 12:54 AM
 
Location: Miami/ Washington DC
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The problem is that if the OP means which city has a significantly worldwide influence none of these are candidate with the exception of New York, Los Angeles and then to lesser extent Miami with South America and maybe Houston.

when it comes to the cities having a worldwide influence meaning worldwide known, then you can bet that Disney world in Orlando and Las Vegas is well known around the whole world, then Miami with D.C. as well... it really depends on the country though, in Asia Miami is definitetively not going to be as popular as it is in Europe and same goes with D.C. it probably has more influence and more known in Europe.
I just figured possibly Las Vegas and Orlando might rank higher due to the wide variety of tourism that goes there, Las Vegas for the huge amount of Casinos and being such a party city and then Orlando with Disney World with surely gets a lot of promotion... But maybe Miami does take some advantage over them but probably not by a lot...
I would think Washington DC has plenty of influence on the world too no? Or are you thinking it is more a domestic influence? It is home to the IMF, World Bank and hundreds of NGOs.

I still do not see how Orlando or Las Vegas is known more world wide. I see what you are saying though but I feel like in areas in the world where people know of Orlando and Vegas they will know of DC and Miami too. I bet many people know that Disney is in Florida but do not know it is near Orlando. And Vegas is know internationally but neither Orlando nor Vegas get as many international visitors as DC or Miami. Miami has a huge immigrant population something neither Orlando or Vegas has. As I said before Airport stats alone show this. I am sure if I went to a street in Asia, Europe or Africa more people would have heard of Miami and DC then Las Vegas and Orlando. Orlando is not a world famous city, Disney World is.
MIA in 2007 had 15,586,000 international passengers 3rd in the US
DC Dulles airport: 5,733,000
Orlando: 2,214,000 and Vegas 2,229,000
Yes MIA and Dulles are hubs but look at the huge difference. However Orlando and Vegas Airports have more total passengers then both MIA and Dulles because they have so many domestic passengers.
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Old 12-31-2009, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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I would think Washington DC has plenty of influence on the world too no? Or are you thinking it is more a domestic influence? It is home to the IMF, World Bank and hundreds of NGOs.

I still do not see how Orlando or Las Vegas is known more world wide. I see what you are saying though but I feel like in areas in the world where people know of Orlando and Vegas they will know of DC and Miami too. I bet many people know that Disney is in Florida but do not know it is near Orlando. And Vegas is know internationally but neither Orlando nor Vegas get as many international visitors as DC or Miami. Miami has a huge immigrant population something neither Orlando or Vegas has. As I said before Airport stats alone show this. I am sure if I went to a street in Asia, Europe or Africa more people would have heard of Miami and DC then Las Vegas and Orlando. Orlando is not a world famous city, Disney World is.
MIA in 2007 had 15,586,000 international passengers 3rd in the US
DC Dulles airport: 5,733,000
Orlando: 2,214,000 and Vegas 2,229,000
Yes MIA and Dulles are hubs but look at the huge difference. However Orlando and Vegas Airports have more total passengers then both MIA and Dulles because they have so many domestic passengers.
DC and Miami are in a different class than Orlando or Vegas. DC and Miami are business cities with lots of immigrants. Orlando and Vegas are tourist cities and even though there are immigrants in both (Puerto Ricans in Orlando and Filipinos in Vegas for example), they are still vacation spots that are extremely well known.

As far as which is more popular between DC and Miami, it really depends on which part of the globe we are talking about. I dont think there is any city more influential or popular in Latin America than Miami. But for the other areas of the world I would vote DC.

As far as the airports go, one of the reasons that Miami has that many international passengers is because of its geographic position. Those numbers you posted are not O&D numbers, they include connecting passengers as well.

Miami's geographic position allows it to reach most Central American, Carribean, and Northern South American cities in 3 hours or less. The less the distance, the cheaper the flight is to operate. International flights, regardless of distance, are expensive. Thats why most flights from Miami to South and Central America are so high yielding.
Dont get me wrong, there is TONS for high yielding O&D to Latin America, England, Paris, and Southern Europe. But as I mentioned, Miami is alot more specific than most air markets including DC. DC doesnt have as much O&D to Latin America (high yielding or otherwise), but it has more to Asia, Africa, and the Middle East (Europe is about the same between both).

Las Vegas and Orlando are even more specific than that. Orlando has a couple of off the wall destinations like Sao Paulo on TAM and Manchester on Virgin Atlantic. As does Vegas with Seoul with Korean air and Frankfurt on Condor. In all cases, these airlines use high capacity aircraft with not many business or first class seats. This is because the traffic is more low yield because neither place is really a business center.

However those high capacity aircraft mean that alot of people from those cities are traveling to those places. Orlando and Vegas are known for business around the world, but they are very well known around the world.
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