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Old 09-07-2017, 09:38 AM
 
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So then all food carts should be banned? Or should only food carts offering food not already offered in a restaurant on Main be allowed? This gets to be a pretty slippery slope.
If the food cart is an independent, self-supporting business that cooks and prepares food on-site like the hot dog vendor you regularly see on Main Street, that is one thing. But a restaurant in a different district on the other side of town, in this case the Chick-Fil-A in Five Points, preparing food at their restaurant away from Main Street and then peddling those sandwiches via a "cart" on Main St during "peak hours" is a completely different story. In this case, they aren't tying to run a true food cart business on Main. They are simply trying to boost sales at their 5 Points location by peddling their sandwiches in other areas of town.

All the businesses on Main are saying is if you want to be a part of the Main Street district, then come be a part of it. But if you want to invest your money into setting up shop elsewhere, then don't expect to peddle your goods outside the businesses that are actually a part of the Main St District.

Main St is becoming more and more popular, so it's understandable for businesses outside of the distrct to want to take advantage of the crowds on Main. If you want to do that, open up a small retail space like Ally & Eloise Bakeshop. They bake their goods at their Forest Drive location, and then transport some of it to their Main St space where they sell them to the crowds on Main as a true member of the Main st business community. They don't just set up a cart outside of Blue Flour Bakery during peak business hours, peddle their cakes, then pack up and leave. That would not be okay.
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Old 09-07-2017, 10:08 AM
 
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Agreed.
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Old 09-07-2017, 01:50 PM
 
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If the food cart is an independent, self-supporting business that cooks and prepares food on-site like the hot dog vendor you regularly see on Main Street, that is one thing. But a restaurant in a different district on the other side of town, in this case the Chick-Fil-A in Five Points, preparing food at their restaurant away from Main Street and then peddling those sandwiches via a "cart" on Main St during "peak hours" is a completely different story. In this case, they aren't tying to run a true food cart business on Main. They are simply trying to boost sales at their 5 Points location by peddling their sandwiches in other areas of town.

All the businesses on Main are saying is if you want to be a part of the Main Street district, then come be a part of it. But if you want to invest your money into setting up shop elsewhere, then don't expect to peddle your goods outside the businesses that are actually a part of the Main St District.

Main St is becoming more and more popular, so it's understandable for businesses outside of the distrct to want to take advantage of the crowds on Main. If you want to do that, open up a small retail space like Ally & Eloise Bakeshop. They bake their goods at their Forest Drive location, and then transport some of it to their Main St space where they sell them to the crowds on Main as a true member of the Main st business community. They don't just set up a cart outside of Blue Flour Bakery during peak business hours, peddle their cakes, then pack up and leave. That would not be okay.


Well put...I can see their point.. The City appears to agree and I believe is adjusting the rules to reflect this...Someone pointed out that they want a drive thru.. I have seen a few Chick Fil a restaurants in other cities that operate without them in the base of office buildings. Their former location on Main St did as well.. and that was waaaaaaaaay before Main Street became popular..They should open a bricks a mortar store
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Old 09-07-2017, 04:42 PM
 
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Well sure but we have local Chick-fil-A franchisees too.
Most of the money still goes to the main company.
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Old 09-08-2017, 06:32 AM
 
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Default Not really accurate, franchisees tend to remit 8-10% of profits

Not really accurate, franchisees tend to remit 8-10% of profits. and sure yes they of course buy their supplies
From them too but do keep the lions share
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Old 09-08-2017, 06:57 AM
 
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If the food cart is an independent, self-supporting business that cooks and prepares food on-site like the hot dog vendor you regularly see on Main Street, that is one thing. But a restaurant in a different district on the other side of town, in this case the Chick-Fil-A in Five Points, preparing food at their restaurant away from Main Street and then peddling those sandwiches via a "cart" on Main St during "peak hours" is a completely different story. In this case, they aren't tying to run a true food cart business on Main. They are simply trying to boost sales at their 5 Points location by peddling their sandwiches in other areas of town.

All the businesses on Main are saying is if you want to be a part of the Main Street district, then come be a part of it. But if you want to invest your money into setting up shop elsewhere, then don't expect to peddle your goods outside the businesses that are actually a part of the Main St District.

Main St is becoming more and more popular, so it's understandable for businesses outside of the distrct to want to take advantage of the crowds on Main. If you want to do that, open up a small retail space like Ally & Eloise Bakeshop. They bake their goods at their Forest Drive location, and then transport some of it to their Main St space where they sell them to the crowds on Main as a true member of the Main st business community. They don't just set up a cart outside of Blue Flour Bakery during peak business hours, peddle their cakes, then pack up and leave. That would not be okay.
Then the city needs to update its ordinances accordingly because as of now, I don't think it makes a distinction when it comes to who can and can't operate food carts on Main.
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Old 09-08-2017, 07:45 AM
 
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Not really accurate, franchisees tend to remit 8-10% of profits. and sure yes they of course buy their supplies
From them too but do keep the lions share
Actually, Chick Fil-a runs on a sort of a operator model that differs from a normal franchise. The corporate office retains ownership of the building, selects the location and retains the business in the event of the operators death. The operating fee is 50% of pre-tax net profits and 15% of sales is paid to the franchiser as "rent" for equipment. This is on top of the initial investment of $10,000.
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Old 09-08-2017, 07:53 AM
 
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Then the city needs to update its ordinances accordingly because as of now, I don't think it makes a distinction when it comes to who can and can't operate food carts on Main.
I actually don't think there is an ordinance relating to food carts. Right now it is just an application, which the city is entitled to deny for any reason, it is their land after all.
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Old 09-08-2017, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Columbia SC
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So then all food carts should be banned? Or should only food carts offering food not already offered in a restaurant on Main be allowed? This gets to be a pretty slippery slope.
Any source of food rolling around could hurt brick and mortar stores the same as the upcoming Greek Festival (which I love) will hurt local the local restaurant lunch trade but only for a few days and it was here before some of the restaurants were.

I say no to rolling up and down Main St. lunch carts. I say yes to brick and mortar places.
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Old 09-09-2017, 04:11 AM
 
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Default Didn't realize that

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Actually, Chick Fil-a runs on a sort of a operator model that differs from a normal franchise. The corporate office retains ownership of the building, selects the location and retains the business in the event of the operators death. The operating fee is 50% of pre-tax net profits and 15% of sales is paid to the franchiser as "rent" for equipment. This is on top of the initial investment of $10,000.
Ok didn't realize that's how their model worked. A guy I play tennis runs one and dies quite well but ya Personally The traditional franchise model chains like tropical smoothie use would be more appealing to me
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