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Old 11-03-2023, 08:57 PM
 
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bingo.
I mean what do these guys expect or want them to build? Gothic castles and 10 story Victorian homes.
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Old 11-04-2023, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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I mean what do these guys expect or want them to build? Gothic castles and 10 story Victorian homes.
No, but something a little more attractive than a giant yellow and black box that stands in stark contrast to the beautiful red brick and stone church next door would be nice. Just because it is affordable housing doesn’t mean it has to be butt ugly.

Would you like that monstrosity next to your house? Be honest Steve. I highly doubt it.

It’s not hard to build an attractive building. It just takes a little good taste and a lesson in classic architecture. The architects should have taken elements from the church and designed from there. Instead they let their egos rule and designed something that will stick out like a sore thumb. Awful, just awfull. Jay
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Old 11-04-2023, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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No, but something a little more attractive than a giant yellow and black box that stands in stark contrast to the beautiful red brick and stone church next door would be nice. Just because it is affordable housing doesn’t mean it has to be butt ugly.

Would you like that monstrosity next to your house? Be honest Steve. I highly doubt it.

It’s not hard to build an attractive building. It just takes a little good taste and a lesson in classic architecture. The architects should have taken elements from the church and designed from there. Instead they let their egos rule and designed something that will stick out like a sore thumb. Awful, just awfull. Jay
Exactly. Nothing selfish about having standards.
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Old 11-04-2023, 09:24 PM
 
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Exactly. Nothing selfish about having standards.

It looks decent. Far better than the housing projects for low income that once existed in our cities.
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Old 11-05-2023, 05:21 AM
 
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder as they used to say. Guys it’s almost 2024, bricklayers are long gone. Do you want to bring back blacksmiths too.
I mean I suppose they could incorporate some faux brick panels to spruce it up.
If you want real brick and gothic stone with gargoyles they would probably have to charge top market rents which which freeze out the wonderful flagship city’s hard law abiding portion working class. You don’t want them in the prized suburbs so they have to go somewhere.

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Old 11-05-2023, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Fairfield County CT
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A very ugly and expensive project gets state funding.

https://www.newhavenindependent.org/...lley_ave_grant
I am hoping that building is just a rendering and perhaps it will look a little more attractive once people chime in about the design.

It reminds me of Brutalist Architecture of which New Haven has a very famous building. God I hate that building when I go to Ikea.
https://metropolismag.com/projects/m...otel-new-haven

There is no reason why you can't have form, function AND BEAUTY even for affordable housing.

Let the kids at the Yale School of Architecture get a shot at that building. I bet they can design a building that has form, function and beauty at a modest cost.
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Old 11-05-2023, 10:32 AM
 
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It looks decent. Far better than the housing projects for low income that once existed in our cities.
Those housing projects built in the 1940’s and 1950’s were once thought to be beautiful too. My aunt lived in the Pequonock Apartment’s when they were built and they were thought to be beautiful. Rich red brick with gray accents and balconies. They were excited to get in because it was new and “modern”. That changes quickly just like these giant ugly boxes will. Jay
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Old 11-05-2023, 11:16 AM
 
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Those housing projects built in the 1940’s and 1950’s were once thought to be beautiful too. My aunt lived in the Pequonock Apartment’s when they were built and they were thought to be beautiful. Rich red brick with gray accents and balconies. They were excited to get in because it was new and “modern”. That changes quickly just like these giant ugly boxes will. Jay
It’s secondary. Do you not get it?
Again, we need to put our self absorbed personal tastes aside and make some small sacrifices for our hard scrapping working class Nutmeggars out there busting their tails everyday to make ends meet . Most of them probably don’t care what a bunch of cube farmers in the suburbs think. You don’t want them in the prized suburbs I get it. But this is in urban New Haven.

80 years from now your grandkids will be complaining about all the spheres and octagons they’ll be building. They’ll be reminiscing the days of those big ugly boxes
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Old 11-05-2023, 12:10 PM
 
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Those housing projects built in the 1940’s and 1950’s were once thought to be beautiful too. My aunt lived in the Pequonock Apartment’s when they were built and they were thought to be beautiful. Rich red brick with gray accents and balconies. They were excited to get in because it was new and “modern”. That changes quickly just like these giant ugly boxes will. Jay
I knew someone in Father Panik. It was beautiful when built.

I am cool with the design shown a few posts ago, as low rental cost is the primary need.
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Old 11-05-2023, 05:41 PM
 
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as low rental cost is the primary need.
Right and that’s my point. Do we love the looks of a Toyota Corolla? No, of course not, but they serve their purpose well.
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