[jxzz]

Originally Posted by Wilton2ParkAve

Yet trains are 10-15 minutes slower than they were in 2002 when i started commuting into NYC. That’s with a completely new stock of M8 cars. Government work at its finest.

Amazingly the express train still takes about similar time.

New Haven to Stamford is still 45 minutes. The slow train used to take 50 minutes, now is more of 1 hour though.

[Wilton2ParkAve]

Originally Posted by jxzz

Amazingly the express train still takes about similar time.

New Haven to Stamford is still 45 minutes. The slow train used to take 50 minutes, now is more of 1 hour though.

I’m not sure what you are taking about - I only take express trains.

[jxzz]

Originally Posted by Wilton2ParkAve

I’m not sure what you are taking about - I only take express trains.

I meant the express verses slow between Bridgeport and Stamford. Super express trains from New Haven skip those stops such as Darien, westport, etc. They all counted as "express" after Stamford, but certainly there is difference on speed between New Haven and Stamford.

I nowadays took mostly the slow trains and I do not like the super-express train crowdedness. But recently I took the super express train from Stamford to New Haven, only 45 minutes between Stamford and West Haven while most other trains are mostly 1 hour. It is obvious on the difference of speed on the two kinds of trains.

There are really three kinds of trains between New Haven and GCT
(1) slow trains- between Stamford/GCT
(2) regular express- stops at Darien, Westport, etc
(3) Super-express, no stops between fairfield/Stamford, some trains have no stops between bridgeport/Stamford. I know one train has no stops between Harlem/Bridgeport.

[JayCT]

Originally Posted by Wilton2ParkAve

Yet trains are 10-15 minutes slower than they were in 2002 when i started commuting into NYC. That’s with a completely new stock of M8 cars. Government work at its finest.

There is still construction on the New Haven line that is slowing train times. Once that construction is complete the travel times will return to preconstruction times. Jay

[Stylo]

Originally Posted by jxzz

Amazingly the express train still takes about similar time.

New Haven to Stamford is still 45 minutes. The slow train used to take 50 minutes, now is more of 1 hour though.

No, the express trains are longer too.

[Stylo]

Originally Posted by JayCT

There is still construction on the New Haven line that is slowing train times. Once that construction is complete the travel times will return to preconstruction times. Jay

Pre construction times were slower than pre-2014 times though. He’s right. The fastest train in Milford was 10 minutes faster than the fastest train last year before the construction. The construction added around 10 minutes to most trains. So it’s 20 minutes longer than it was 6 years ago. It keeps getting worse. At least Lamont seems to be trying to do something about it.

[JayCT]

Originally Posted by Stylo

Pre construction times were slower than pre-2014 times though. He’s right. The fastest train in Milford was 10 minutes faster than the fastest train last year before the construction. The construction added around 10 minutes to most trains. So it’s 20 minutes longer than it was 6 years ago. It keeps getting worse. At least Lamont seems to be trying to do something about it.

There has been construction on the New Haven line longer than six years. It various projects over the years that has caused the increased times. Jay

[OyCrumbler]

Originally Posted by SteveM85

Why?
Those areas have populations in the multiple millions.
LA in particular doesn't have a lane capacity issue, it has a people issue, as in too many of them.

Fairfield County is barely one million folks. Only so many work in Stamford.
Where would all these "if you build they will come" drivers be coming from and going to?

LA has a sprawl issue and they kept on adding more and more lanes instead of planning development around any particular cores or mass transit. I grew up in the area and the traffic simply got worse and worse as they kept adding more and more lanes. It would be an improvement for a few months on some stretches and then creep up to being worse than it ever was. LA also has probably the worst of both worlds in that it ended up with dense sprawl where it’s not easy to get around by walking/mass transit and sprawled out so much that you need to drive everywhere, but so densely packed that you’re hitting traffic almost immediately. They’ve been trying to change that a bit, but it’s often two steps forward one step backwards.

[SteveM85]

Originally Posted by ProudFairfielder

Given the ridiculous cost of land acquisition in FFC (Just imagine the state trying to buy property in Greenwich or Darien!) this will never happen, so who cares what the effects will be.

Also, because induced demand is a thing, I'm fine with 95 being 3 lanes. There are other traffic relieving measures which are far more effective.

huh, there are? and far more effective?
Great to know, why in the heck haven't they been put in place yet.

Plain and simple, the only measure is to increase lane capacity, period.

Are you aware a few years ago they added a 4th lane to a portion of Darien/Norwalk. They should have kept going, all it does now is bottleneck when it goes back to 3 lanes.
I'm not sure how the purchasing part occurred.

[SteveM85]

Originally Posted by OyCrumbler

LA has a sprawl issue and they kept on adding more and more lanes instead of planning development around any particular cores or mass transit. I grew up in the area and the traffic simply got worse and worse as they kept adding more and more lanes. It would be an improvement for a few months on some stretches and then creep up to being worse than it ever was. LA also has probably the worst of both worlds in that it ended up with dense sprawl where it’s not easy to get around by walking/mass transit and sprawled out so much that you need to drive everywhere, but so densely packed that you’re hitting traffic almost immediately. They’ve been trying to change that a bit, but it’s often two steps forward one step backwards.

You're preaching to the choir. The intersection at Franklin and Highland has probably taken a few years off my lifespan.

Stamford is apples and oranges. Big Corps aren't moving in by leaps and bounds anymore. Only so many people can and do work there. Given the office and apartment vacancies, outbound migration, I'm not buying the induced demand thing yet.