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Can anyone prove Martin started the fight?
Look at all the events prior to their fight.
Who watched who?
Who followed who?
Who ran from who?
Who got out of their vehicle and chased the other?
What did Martin do that night that showed aggression or anything related to any sort of violence?
Who had a loaded firearm and used it?
When you answer those questions, doesn't it make sense that the one who fired the weapon tends to look like the aggressor in this situation?
Now add in everything before then and since then.
You have a man with multiple allegations of harassment, assaults on civilians and police officers, multiple stories of threats with firearms and aggravated behavior.
Then you have a 17 year old kid who is considered a thug because he flipped off a camera on his instagram and then quoted rap lyrics while the real criminal is given a pass because black people with hoodies in the rain make people feel uncomfortable.
I've drawn conclusions from the evidence.
Now, please explain to me how that video, all by itself, proves what you say it proves, or proves anything for that matter.
So again, I'm curious about your thoughts on why that video proves that my quote you put in bold CANNOT be true, because I'm not seeing it.
First, much of the "evidence" in this case is built on Zimmerman's account of what happened (regarding what happened before Martin gained the upper hand in the fight.
As far as the video. It cannot be true that the Martin attacked Zimmerman at the "T" and immediately pinned down Zimmerman at that location and also be true that Martins body was found 30 to 40 feet away from that location.
We KNOW the location where Martin's body was found and it is NOT the place where Zimmerman said the attack took place.
There are only two scenarios:
1) the attack took place where Martin's body was found (however this presents a problem for Zimmerman because that sidewalk is NOT on the way back to where his truck was parked.
2) The attack took place where Zimmerman said it did, and then Zimmerman moved the body down the sidewalk (which makes no since.
And while were at it.
Some of Zimmerman's personal stuff (keys and flashlight) were found at the "T". They were found in the grass in a place where it would appear that they fell out of Zimmerman's pocket (he was wearing jogging pants). If Zimmerman were attacked where he said he was then it makes sense that those items would be in that area. However we know that the attack didn't take place there.
The most likely scenario for those items to fall out of Zimmerman's pocket was for Zimmerman to be moving rapidly down the sidewalk from his truck and making a hard right turn while in pursuit of Martin. Where the items were found would indicate that they came out of the pocket when he made his turn.
Zimmerman writes left handed so it is highly plausible that his keys and flashlight were in his left front pocket.
It never ceases to amaze me how a certain group of people are so quick to condemn an unarmed teenage "thug" being killed after they "attacked" a wannabe cop, yet seem to have no problem with GZ pointing a shotgun at a woman.
What a sorry group of people that is.
Last edited by ATG5; 01-11-2015 at 04:55 PM..
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It doesn't cease to amaze me how a certain group of people are so quick to condemn an unarmed teenage "thug" being killed after they "attacked" a wannabe cop, yet seem to have no problem with GZ pointing a shotgun at a woman.
This is a logical fallacy. You have not established that the facts are the same and the "facts" as you state them, are simply incorrect. Take off those "Black before anything else" glasses and you might be able to see it better and your amazement will go away.
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