Officer Suspended After Pulling Weapon On Teens During Pool Party

[prospectheightsresident]

Originally Posted by jazzarama

There were supposedly near 100 teens there, some running, some confronting the cops, some cooperatively talking to cops. You'll notice that other cops came running over after the one cop pulled his gun. You and others apparently expect everything to go just right as scripted in a movie.

Even though gun-puller/girl tosser cop is toast, the guy in blue who ran over, squatted, and put his hand behind his back, the one two other cops chased, was a badboy, badboy.

Sure, I think from the other officers' perspective, the gun draw may have been unwarranted and they wanted to make sure that nothing tragic occurred. That said, looking at things from the officer in question's perspective, I can't say that its unreasonable (he didn't have full vision of the two people aggressively running up on him . . . seriously, who does that?).

And I don't expect things to go just right as scripted in a movie. That's what racial divisionists (are you one?) expect when they expect perfection from police battling the criminal element.

[john3232]

The officer was out of line and as I mentioned earlier will likely be fired.

However, I lived in Dallas for a couple of years and am familiar with the frustration the officer in question might have held. Black teens often hopped the fence into the complex where I lived to use the pool. They would then run and hop back over as soon as they saw security/police. If that wasn`t enough a few times the kids went into the laundry room and ripped off clothes from the dryers.

Again none of this justified the action of the officer in question but I understand why he seemed so pissed off.

[Dhult]

Originally Posted by veuvegirl

Take race out of it. A cop manhandled a 14 year old girl for mouthing off, for not being respectful. All I could picture was my daughter in the hands of this officer (she is about the same age).

I watched the video and tears came. My daughter next to me asking what was wrong. She was just as shocked at the video wondering why a police officer would act that way.

With everything going on and all the teens he was detaining he had to spend time on one 14 year old girl who talked back to him and was walking away? It was a overreacting and a assault on that child.

Originally Posted by notmeofficer

In recent interviews citizens are supporting the actions of police... while nonresidents and outside agitators.. black lives matter... are trying to make this another Ferguson ...which it is not

People are looking to justify their poor behaviors and then are outraged when Leo attempts to stop that behavior at the request of citizens ... in this case numerous 911 calls reporting assaults trespassing disturbing the peace . We have one officer who did not handle himself well...but was not racist. If you choose to be a part of chaos you get the result of that chaos

Media is loving it... keep stoking it...

I have read a lot of your posts on many police topics you have written on. I agree with many of them and disagree with a lot as well. One thing that is clear though many times someone states something you automatically call them anti-cop. Because someone disagrees with the actions of one police officer you always seem to minimize it and take it as a attack on all police. You're a great example of the thin blue line.

While I may agree with your responses many times even when a police officer does something wrong you are always there to defend. Police or citizens too by the way.

Normally I would be the first to state take race out of it. However, after watching the kid that took the video being interviewed he did make a point that was evident in his video.

He walked up to the scene with two friends. They were discussing the flashlight and which one would give it back to the one officer. What the young kid pointed out is that all three of them came to the scene together and were standing together. The officer made his two friends sit down and they were being detained. The officer skipped him. Why?

Is it just a coincidence that the child holding the camera is white and his two buddies were black?
When the kid stated this he also stated that other white children were mixed in the whole scene. None of them that were standing there with other black kids (who were also standing there) were detained. Yes many kids ran but the black kids and white kids watching and standing weren't treated the same. Some were treated as the fleeing kids. The black children.

That was a fact that is hard to ignore. The cop stated to the two kids near the end of the video that he needed to find out what was going on with the reported assault and 911 calls and was detaining them until he knew. So why was it necessary to detain the black kids and not the white?

The white kid was standing with his two black friends the whole time. He was skipped over and not made to sit. Why wasn't he detained. They were all together.

No, this isn't another Ferguson. Yes, outside agitators and people like Sharpten are race bating, card playing manipulators.

Yes, people should have respect for LEOs. It's a dangerous job and we need police officers to respond to citizens that need help.

That doen't mean every officer is deserving of respect. Doesn't mean every order a police officer gives is lawful. It doesn't mean I have to comply when my rights are being violated. Everyone else is not citizens and police are some paramilitary troop above them. You and other officers are citizens too. Given the ability to enforce laws by your fellow citizens.

I don't think slamming a 14 year old girls head in the ground for being a smart ass is acceptable. Its an assault. Becuase you wear a badge it doesn't make it OK. You're not some untouchable master that one can't backtalk. You don't assault people because they backtalk you. You don't repeatedly slam a child's head into the ground becuase of it.

The people are constantly telling you that its not acceptable. As I was looking at videos of this event I watched several normally pro LEO conservatives talk about this situation. The way the officer responded in general wasn't just the topic but the way he assaulted the girl was. Many conservatives also have problems with this. It's not just a black lives matter campaign.

He didn't just handle the situation badly. You state "didn't handle himself well".

I'm not one who normally talks about race but deeds. You steal, you go to jail. You riot and destroy private property , you go to jail. You assault people, you go to jail. You beat people to death you go to jail.

Don't want to go to far off talking in generalities so I'll go back to this point

We have one officer who did not handle himself well...but was not racist

Then why was three friends standing together one white and two black not treated the same at the scene?

[RogueMom]

There are always a few bad soldiers, that does not mean we disrespect our armed forces. There are always going to be a few bad cops, that does not mean we disrespect the law.

The media is instigating a lot of this crap. If we do not have a healthy respect for the law, and for those that put their lives on the line daily to enforce it, we will become a third world type of country.

The DJ need to be held accountable also. I've never seen that kind of music bring out the "best" in people, not ever.

[veuvegirl]

Originally Posted by Dhult

With everything going on and all the teens he was detaining he had to spend time on one 14 year old girl who talked back to him and was walking away? It was a overreacting and a assault on that child.

You might want to read my post. I am appalled by this officer's action. Everyone is throwing the race card. Taking race out of it, his actions are horrid.

[Dhult]

Originally Posted by RogueMom

The media is instigating a lot of this crap. If we do not have a healthy respect for the law, and for those that put their lives on the line daily to enforce it, we will become a third world type of country.

A third world country doesn't have a healthy respect for their law enforcement or law because they fear them with good reason. Healthy respect isn't a default position. It's earned from the people believing that the law is fair and evenly applied. That rights are respected. When that is not done the law hasn't earned the peoples respect.

The law doesn't have a healthy respect for their people in third world countries.

[john3232]

Originally Posted by RogueMom

...The media is instigating a lot of this crap.

For sure. It`s great for the ratings. Just check out Yahoo for example. Over 25,000 comments on the story about what the 14 year old girl had to say on what happened.

[WaldoKitty]

Originally Posted by SoloforLife

Taxpayers in these cities are too dense. Make them pay for not recognizing that the police are a problem and a complete 180 is necessary so that professionalism is demonstrated. Lawsuits need to be filed by the best lawyers available so that the taxpayers will be hit hard in the pocket every time.

Big talk, no substance.

If you find a lawyer who will recommend this approach, i.e. using the civil courts to "punish" defendant, then you need to do a 180 and run from that lawyer because this can cost you dearly in counter suits, legal fees, and even subject you to criminal contempt of court charges.

The ONLY reason for a civil suit is to seek remedy for damages. Unless you can demonstrate that YOU were damaged by the defendant, then you better stay away. Of course the stupid do this every day and you never hear about the fines and legal costs they end up paying.

Finally the "taxpayers" in this case are the people who live there, and it sounds pretty much like they are on the side of the police. Unlike the hoodlums they don't want their neighborhood to be a place of thuggery.

[WaldoKitty]

Originally Posted by veuvegirl

However this does not justify the officer whIpping a 14 year old girl around by the hair, throwing her on the ground. When she is on the ground screaming "I am on the ground I am on the ground!" He then screams "on your face", pushes her face into the ground, digs his knee into her back, all the while she is screaming "you are hurting me, I want my mamma."

Ahh, you expect love and kisses when getting agressive with police. Doesn't work that way.

If you get taken down by police, because you got aggressive, then police will use any method at their disposal to stop the aggressive behavior. A wild ass out of control 14 year old, who apparently has a poor upbringing just got a lesson in this.

Don't want to be manhandled? Then don't fight with police. It's not hard to understand.

[WeHa]

That cop is a cowboy who when he didn't get the respect and control he wanted he lost his own control. When he drew his gun 2 other officers motioned to it trying to keep him from raising it. He then orders those 2 officers to run off camera after the kids.

If he was truly in danger and fearing for his life why would he send backup officers on a chase instead of having them help with this "life threatening" situation the necessitated drawing his gun.

Cops have supreme authority and they don't like it when it's challenged. White or black, if a cop comes up to you and asks who you are, why you're here and if he can see your ID and the person refuses (which unless being detained or attested they have a right to not give that information) . That pisses cops off and then the situation escalates. There are tons of videos on YouTube with these confrontations, with people of all races.