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I just wish someone on the train car had been carrying a gun.
Why people choose to malign the small % of our fellow citizens that go to the cost and application process, background checks etc. to get a CCW permit (in most states it's rigorous if allowed at all)....makes no sense.
Those are the people that might just save your life someday when a cop is not around.
I won't defend those passengers. 10? really? In those situation people need get together and go after the attacker. Even 4 weak people can control a strong man as long as he doesn't have a firearm.
I wonder if their reaction was to find their smart phone to record the incident. That seems to be what people do now days.
what SHOULD have happened is another passenger with a CPL walked up and put a bullet in the back of this baboons head...unfortunately DC forbids it...they prefer a city full of potential victims, expecting the guberment to protect them...phttt...everyone needs to arm themselves and carry...
anyone who took off their belt would have been stabbed and punched to death as well
I agree with you about carrying a side rig,
I disagree right here, your not carrying? so you'll stand around and do nothing?
And no, I would not be dead. Been there and done that. Next..
First and foremost, my condolences to the young man who was killed. I also pray that young assailant finds Jesus Christ and turns from his ways.
Having said that, things like this will probably really damage any progress that has been made on getting Americans to embrace public transport. Anyone agree?
I don't see why this would dissuade public transit use any more than carjackings, road rage shootings and assaults, the tens of thousands killed in the U.S. alone in car accidents, and the many more injured each year would dissuade car use.
Driving your kid around in a car is far, far more dangerous than riding a train.
Like the murderer? Maybe the guy could have killed everybody on the train car with the firearm. It goes both ways also.
What's your point? That because the perp could have had a gun, therefore no one else in the car should be allowed to have a gun? That doesn't even make sense.
It takes time to stab someone 40-60 times. Let's say, 1 second per stabbing. Then that's about a minute that someone else would have to move into position, draw and unlock their gun, and fire off a round directly into the killer.
But, then there's a whole army of liberals and civil rights activists who would come at you. Why did you shoot when you could have subdued him without deadly force? Why did you use disproportionate force? Are all your licenses in order? Would you have shot him if he were white? How do you know he wasn't defending himself?
Liberals have a vested interest in portraying guns as completely evil and ineffective. Anyone who actually saves someone's life with a gun is disproving their ideology and they will suppress the information. There are actually many stories of people using guns to fend off attackers, but they tend not to make the news.
It sounds like the victim may have resisted having his phone taken and a struggle ensued.
I am not blaming the victim. May he RIP.
The killer's actions sound like he may be a Meth addict. Municipalities have protocols for dealing with Meth addicts because of a tendency for spontaneous violence.
Yes I am certain several of you would have bravely stormed the perp and using a series of flying spin kicks and hammer fists, would have obliterated him, to the cheers of the adoring but frightened passengers on the bus.
For the rest of us, at least we will admit that we never know how we will act in such incredibly stressful situations, involving life and death and extreme violence and blood.
I know if I was on that bus, I would have been so shocked and scared and would have been frozen in my seat, my mind and body unable to move or comprehend the sheer violence that is before my eyes. Movies and video clips are one thing, reality is another.
The classic bystander effect.
So all of you heroes out there, I salute you for your bravery and confidence in knowing you would have confronted the perpetrator and saved the day.
I'm only 5'5" tall, overweight, and 46 years old. I also served 8 years in the military. Probably couldn't beat the guy in a one on one fight, but I would step up to do what I could to save the guy's life. Full Nelson hold, half Nelson hold, kick to the balls, swift kick to his head (face or temple), diving tackle to get him off the guy. Better to try something and fail than do nothing and wonder if you could have saved his life.
Blue Skies to the young man, but there's no way in hell a train car full of passengers who idly stood by and watched this punk commit murder right in front of their eye's against a decent hard working chap and not even a few god damn passenger had the balls to take their belts off and beat the s#$t out of this murderer? everyone of these passengers are self servicing cupcakes, it's a crying shame that this punk murderer wasn't sent home screaming in a pool of blood for his mommy..
This is what happens when large segments of the population rely upon the government.
I'm only 5'5" tall, overweight, and 46 years old. I also served 8 years in the military. Probably couldn't beat the guy in a one on one fight, but I would step up to do what I could to save the guy's life. Full Nelson hold, half Nelson hold, kick to the balls, swift kick to his head (face or temple), diving tackle to get him off the guy. Better to try something and fail than do nothing and wonder if you could have saved his life.
At the very least, somebody should have been able to step up from behind and hit him square in the kidneys!
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