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Old 11-24-2015, 01:29 PM
 
Location: H-Tine, Texas
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Wearing a mask, bullet proof vest and even being armed are not cause for being assaulted. If the protester the fired the gun feared for his life or any of his compatriots lives as a result of being assaulted his actions are justified.
I didn't say that, but it does warrant being questioned or confronted. And from there, we don't know what actually happened and what was said.

And if you don't think so, try that on Black Friday and see what happens.
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Old 11-24-2015, 01:33 PM
 
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I didn't say that, but it does warrant being questioned or confronted. And from there, we don't know what actually happened and what was said.

And if you don't think so, try that on Black Friday and see what happens.
Indeed, but as reports are indicated they were not questioned but assaulted the actions become justified. If they were assaulted they were justified NOTHING ELSE MATTERS. No doubt there are 35 videos of this. Just a matter of releasing them.
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Old 11-24-2015, 01:34 PM
 
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Watch Trump Supporters Punch, Kick Black Lives Matter Protester at Rally <--- Most people call that "battery".

Maybe if this heckler would've showed up armed, with a bulletproof vest and a mask on, you would defend him. I won't hold my breath.
You do realize that venue in Alabama was paid for by Trump, not a public space
The gentlemen at the Trump rally disrupted the rally by screaming "Black lives Matter". There is no indication that the white guys said a word, they were just standing there filming. Now, if this gentleman would have shut up and filmed the Trump rally, probably no issues
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Old 11-24-2015, 01:37 PM
 
Location: H-Tine, Texas
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Indeed, but as reports are indicated they were not questioned but assaulted the actions become justified. If they were assaulted they were justified NOTHING ELSE MATTERS. No doubt there are 35 videos of this. Just a matter of releasing them.
Apparently, the MPD believes other things matter, since they have arrested two of the men involved in the shooting.

By your "logic", someone can sucker punch me on the sidewalk and I can take my gun out and shoot his friends in "self defense". Makes sense.

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You do realize that venue in Alabama was paid for by Trump, not a public space
The gentlemen at the Trump rally disrupted the rally by screaming "Black lives Matter". There is no indication that the white guys said a word, they were just standing there filming. Now, if this gentleman would have shut up and filmed the Trump rally, probably no issues
So why was the heckler at the Trump rally in Massachusetts just escorted out, and the heckler in Alabama assaulted and no arrests made?
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Old 11-24-2015, 01:39 PM
 
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Apparently, the MPD believes other things matter, since they have arrested two of the men involved in the shooting.

Sheesh, by your "logic", someone can sucker punch me on the sidewalk and I can take my gun out and shoot his friends in "self defense". Makes sense.



So why was the heckler at the Trump rally in Massachusetts just escorted out, and the heckler in Alabama assaulted and no arrests made?
Punches can be deadly force. If you are assaulted in that manner and have resonable cause to fear for your life YES lethal force is justified.

Arrests mean next to nothing. Police forces are the arm of the governing political body. Lets see how the court action goes.
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Old 11-24-2015, 01:41 PM
 
Location: H-Tine, Texas
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Punches can be deadly force. If you are assaulted in that manner and have resonable cause to fear for your life YES lethal force is justified.

Arrests mean next to nothing. Police forces are the arm of the governing political body. Lets see how the court action goes.
We'll see, depending on the laws of that state. For all we know, the other protesters could've thrown the first punch or brandished their weapon. I'm sure both sides will come out to be guilty in some capacity in the end.
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Old 11-24-2015, 01:43 PM
 
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We'll see, depending on the laws of that state. For all we know, the other protesters could've thrown the first punch or brandished their weapon. I'm sure both sides will come out to be guilty in some capacity in the end.
It is certainly possible. At this point without videos it appears quite unlikely tho. BLM witnesses have already stated one of these guys was punched in the face. BLM witnesses did not claim that they were assaulted (at least until the shooting started).
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Old 11-24-2015, 01:47 PM
 
Location: H-Tine, Texas
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It is certainly possible. At this point without videos it appears quite unlikely tho. BLM witnesses have already stated one of these guys was punched in the face. BLM witnesses did not claim that they were assaulted (at least until the shooting started).
And that very will could be the truth (then that person should be arrested and charged), or it could be the truth from their perspective and the witness may have missed an event leading to that.

Hopefully all the videos come out and then everyone in the wrong gets charged and ends up spending their Thanksgiving in jail.
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Old 11-24-2015, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Indeed, but as reports are indicated they were not questioned but assaulted the actions become justified. If they were assaulted they were justified NOTHING ELSE MATTERS. No doubt there are 35 videos of this. Just a matter of releasing them.
Thats a great song, btw.
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Old 11-24-2015, 02:17 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Seems like whites are okay with violence as long as another white isn't the victim

Not surprised.
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