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Old 10-31-2016, 12:22 PM
 
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Having to drain your bladder IS a "medical condition".
But not being able to hold it? There are times in life when you are not going to be able to use/find a bathroom, and will need to wait. Unless there was a medical condition, having to wait 20-30 minutes to use the restroom should not result in a middle school student having an accident.
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Old 10-31-2016, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Central Florida
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I seriously doubt the boy wet himself and was humiliated for spite. Obviously he had to go badly.
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Old 10-31-2016, 01:05 PM
 
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We had a teacher who was suspended without pay for five days for allowing a student to go the restroom. She was subsequently caught fellating the basketball team (just the starting 5), 3rd time. She was on a no pass list which had not been distributed to the staff. He did get his pay back after a year long grievance process.

I had a girl who was on a no pass list walk out to the bathroom. I followed the procedure and wrote her up.

No problem except when the parents came in the Vice Principal said the no pass list, it was his by the way, was not really enforceable.

I didn't trust him much after that. He was the one who would go into classrooms and berate teachers in front of the class.

If this is that big of a deal in schools then they need to install a single restroom in every classroom. Denying a student the right to void his bowel or bladder for any reason is and should be treated as abusive.
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Old 10-31-2016, 01:15 PM
 
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This does not surprise me because my old junior high severely limited our bathroom breaks.The teacher should have let him use the boys room
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Old 10-31-2016, 01:18 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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If this is that big of a deal in schools then they need to install a single restroom in every classroom. Denying a student the right to void his bowel or bladder for any reason is and should be treated as abusive.
Here's the problem, some kids just absolutely, positively can't be allowed out of sight. A no pass list is actually a good compromise.

Kids will leave class to ****, to get high, to get drunk, to look for a fight, to just wander around or be generally disruptive, among a multitude of other reasons.

Then guys like you will say the schools are "out of control".

Oh, the girl in my second example would leave the class to ****, that's why she was on the no pass list.
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Old 10-31-2016, 01:46 PM
 
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Here's the problem, some kids just absolutely, positively can't be allowed out of sight. A no pass list is actually a good compromise.

Kids will leave class to ****, to get high, to get drunk, to look for a fight, to just wander around or be generally disruptive, among a multitude of other reasons.

Then guys like you will say the schools are "out of control".

Oh, the girl in my second example would leave the class to ****, that's why she was on the no pass list.

Yes, some kids will ask to use the restroom all the time because they are bored and don't want to be in class. It can be very disruptive to the class to have students continually asking to use the restroom. I've been in classes where one student after another asks to go. Not only are they interrupting class to ask permission, but being out of their seats, going out the door, and coming back in a few minutes later is also distracting to the other students.

Where I work, its a policy that all classroom doors need to remain shut and locked from the outside. So students who leave to use the restroom will need to be let back into the classroom. Some students will stand outside the door (looking in the window) until someone notices them, while others will bang on the door and yell to be let in. Which is, again, disrupting the rest of the class.

A class period in middle school is usually only about 40 minutes. There is just not enough time for the teacher to be stopping class for bathroom breaks, so students really should be using the restroom before or after class. But of course, most of the time students want to use that time to socialize or goof off in the hallways knowing that they can just use class time to take care of personal business.
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Old 10-31-2016, 03:40 PM
 
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Did you read the article? I'm sure the child is potty trained, but I don't care how old you are, you can only hold it in so long! The child was refused to go to the washroom and could no longer hold it in! Has nothing to do with potty training or age.


In my opinion the kid should have just left the class and went to the washroom anyway. I tell my kids if they need to go, go! I don't care what the teacher says.

It's odd that kids today will not hesitate to physically assault a teacher, but are afraid to walk out of class to take a leak.
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Old 10-31-2016, 03:59 PM
 
Location: The analog world
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I'm just grateful to send my kids to a school where their need to attend to physical needs is respected.
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Old 10-31-2016, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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I can't recall there ever being a teacher in my schools who let anyone out of class to use a lavatory. That was something you did before class, during recess or lunch hour. In between, you just gritted your teeth and gave your PC muscles a workout. Of course, we didn't have any sugared drinks to guzzle, that are dispensed at schools today. No coin-op drink or candy machines were allowed at or within a quarter-mile of any school.
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Old 10-31-2016, 05:05 PM
 
Location: The analog world
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Sugared drinks dispensed at schools? Maybe in the eighties (I bought Coca-cola from the student run snack bar), but not today!
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