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Doesn't NASA keep track of all the Space Junk? Seems like an important task as reliant as we are on Satellites now days. Keep'em funded, leave the line open, incase someone is trying to call us...
Yes, NASA does and the military too. SETI has been listening for 50 years with nothing to show for.
I got the point of the guy saying that the history channel has shown that aliens have intervened and I just couldn't read this thread anymore. We haven't been visited by advanced life nor did we find aliens at area 51. Why? Physics, that is why.
Yeah, between big foot, the ghost paranormal shows and aliens the history channel has it all figured out.
If anything this announcement is likely from them finding a smallish double the earth sized plant in the habital zone which shows an atmosphere that might not kill you the second you hit the surface.
I don't think we have the technology to analyse atmospheric conditions of exoplanets yet. They are just too far away. As for this announcement, I too don't think it's about some evidence of life found elsewhere, because we haven't found any. In fact, I am taking bets. I will take 5 bets, $20 each.
Nothing at Pumapunku defies rational thought. What defies rational thought is the belief that aliens visited Bolivia and did little more than leave some magnificent masonry.
Nothing at Pumapunku defies rational thought. What defies rational thought is the belief that aliens visited Bolivia and did little more than leave some magnificent masonry.
So you're under the assumption that Bolivians created the magnificent masonry? If so, where are the tools?
Here's how this works:
There is something that cannot presently be explained (or, more often, which can be explained but the personal incredulity of the claimant prevents them from seeing this), and instead of pausing to reflect that a failure to understand does not mean that there is a lack of a mundane reason - after all, before gravity and fusion and the mechanics of the solar system were understood, that bright heat-radiating orb that crossed the sky was utterly mystifying - for such things.
This is a common fallacy used by believers. "I refuse to believe that life could arise from non-life spontaneously. Therefore, GodDidIt!". And we see the same sort of thing claimed of ancient goings-on, where instead of God, aliens are the magical entity behind something that claimant just refused to accept occurred by non-fantastic means.
It is always useful to apply Occam's Razor.
You can't find your car keys. Where did they go? You're certain you left them on the table by the door. You positively know you did!
"Aliens from Alpha Centauri teleported down to Earth and swiped them!"
Ooops! You find your keys on the kitchen counter.
"A-ha! That crafty alien from Alpha Centauri put them there!"
Now, I am not saying that extraterrestrial life does not exist. Nor am I saying it exists, for our data on this issue is so limited that there's really little evidence either way. But to say "Wow! I'm surprised that stone age peoples could build such a thing! Must be aliens, because that's much more plausible than simply conceding that said people were simply more technologically capable than I would have thought!".
Here's how this works:
There is something that cannot presently be explained (or, more often, which can be explained but the personal incredulity of the claimant prevents them from seeing this), and instead of pausing to reflect that a failure to understand does not mean that there is a lack of a mundane reason - after all, before gravity and fusion and the mechanics of the solar system were understood, that bright heat-radiating orb that crossed the sky was utterly mystifying - for such things.
This is a common fallacy used by believers. "I refuse to believe that life could arise from non-life spontaneously. Therefore, GodDidIt!". And we see the same sort of thing claimed of ancient goings-on, where instead of God, aliens are the magical entity behind something that claimant just refused to accept occurred by non-fantastic means.
It is always useful to apply Occam's Razor.
You can't find your car keys. Where did they go? You're certain you left them on the table by the door. You positively know you did!
"Aliens from Alpha Centauri teleported down to Earth and swiped them!"
Ooops! You find your keys on the kitchen counter.
"A-ha! That crafty alien from Alpha Centauri put them there!"
Now, I am not saying that extraterrestrial life does not exist. Nor am I saying it exists, for our data on this issue is so limited that there's really little evidence either way. But to say "Wow! I'm surprised that stone age peoples could build such a thing! Must be aliens, because that's much more plausible than simply conceding that said people were simply more technologically capable than I would have thought!".
That's nonsense. There is no other way to put it.
The proof is in the pudding.l We know that the Egyptians built the pyramids, we have found their quarries, their tools, a written history about them building their monuments, etc. We have found this evidence in most every civilization who we thought were too primative to do what they did. With a few exceptions. Pumapunku being on of them. In order to make those blocks fit together with laser-like precision, so precise that you can't slide a piece of paper into the cracks between the blocks, would take an engineering feat that would certainly leave behind remnants of the processes.
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