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Old 10-24-2017, 04:04 PM
 
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There's no death penalty in Michigan, but there is life in prison.

The 17 year old that dropped the killer rock will get life for sure.
Why do you say so?

As my extensive, 30 seconds of googling, research shows

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Life Imprisonment - A mandatory term of life imprisonment without the possibility of parole must be imposed if an offender is convicted of First-Degree Murder or placing explosives with personal injury resulting
CORRECTIONS - Definitions/Glossary
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750.316 First degree murder; penalty; definitions.
Sec. 316.

(1) Except as provided in sections 25 and 25a of chapter IX of the code of criminal procedure, 1927 PA 175, MCL 769.25 and 769.25a, a person who commits any of the following is guilty of first degree murder and shall be punished by imprisonment for life without eligibility for parole:

(a) Murder perpetrated by means of poison, lying in wait, or any other willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing.
Michigan Legislature - Section 750.316


I'm not a lawyer, but I'd think it'd be difficult to show that this was a "deliberate and premeditated killing"
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Old 10-24-2017, 04:26 PM
 
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From over three years ago:

Idiot teens drop rocks onto drivers from overpass

This is what happens when you coddle criminal elements.

I guarantee you, if they allowed us to chop off the hand/arm of someone that committed such an act that resulted in a death or serious injury, many of these miscreants would think twice about doing so.

And if it were sentence of death, even more so.

Don't mind these "death penalty doesn't prevent crimes" folk.
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Old 10-24-2017, 04:31 PM
 
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I guarantee you, if they allowed us to chop off the hand/arm of someone that committed such an act that resulted in a death or serious injury, many of these miscreants would think twice about doing so.

And if it were sentence of death, even more so.

Don't mind these "death penalty doesn't prevent crimes" folk.
So, in your mind the conversation goes something like this?

A: Let's drop rocks on cars
B: Someone could be killed. And we could get in trouble.
A: How much trouble?
B: Not death or dismemberment.
A: Bombs away!
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Old 10-24-2017, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Fuquay Varina
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Originally Posted by Suburban_Guy View Post
From over three years ago:

Idiot teens drop rocks onto drivers from overpass

This is what happens when you coddle criminal elements.

I guarantee you, if they allowed us to chop off the hand/arm of someone that committed such an act that resulted in a death or serious injury, many of these miscreants would think twice about doing so.

And if it were sentence of death, even more so.

Don't mind these "death penalty doesn't prevent crimes" folk.

They could make it a Monthly PPV event and pay off the US debt lol
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Old 10-24-2017, 04:35 PM
 
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What scum-bags. I hate punks like this - they're in a group together, and think they're invincible. I hope they're all being tried as adults. They should either be put in prison for the rest of their lives without parole, or get the death penalty. If they do get the death penalty, they should have large rocks thrown at them until they're killed - so they can see what it felt like for the guy that died because of them!!!

What human pieces of excrement.
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Old 10-24-2017, 04:45 PM
 
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If they do get the death penalty, they should have large rocks thrown at them until they're killed - so they can see what it felt like for the guy that died because of them!!!
Exhibit A of why the 8th amendment exists
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Old 10-24-2017, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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"...face life in prison if convicted". They were charged as adults.

Thugs.
Not thugs. You're only using 'thug' because they don't look like the usual thugs ... These guys are simply nitwits (who are now killers).
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Old 10-24-2017, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Somewhere, out there in Zone7B
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Let's see how many of the parents of those boys claim they are such good children and try to defend their kids actions!
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Old 10-24-2017, 06:19 PM
 
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The look on these kid's faces in court is disgusting. No remorse, every single one of them looks annoyed that they are there

Judge denies teens bond in Michigan rock-throwing death | Daily Mail Online
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Old 10-24-2017, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Why do you say so?

As my extensive, 30 seconds of googling, research shows


CORRECTIONS - Definitions/Glossary

Michigan Legislature - Section 750.316


I'm not a lawyer, but I'd think it'd be difficult to show that this was a "deliberate and premeditated killing"
They are being charged with SECOND degree murder, which still carries a penalty of LIFE in prison, and does NOT have to show "deliberate and premeditated killing" just wanton disregard of life. By the way, in Michigan pretty much "Life means Life". In other words, even IF you get a LIFE sentence "with the possibility of parole" you are very unlikely in that case to ever get parole in Michigan

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Section 750.317
750.317 Second degree murder; penalty.
Sec. 317.
Second degree murder—All other kinds of murder shall be murder of the second degree, and shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for life, or any term of years, in the discretion of the court trying the same.

History: 1931, Act 328, Eff. Sept. 18, 1931 ;-- CL 1948, 750.317
Former Law: See section 2 of Ch. 153 of R.S. 1846, being CL 1857, § 5712; CL 1871, § 7511; How., § 9076; CL 1897, § 11471; CL 1915, § 15193; and CL 1929, § 16709.

© 2017 Legislative Council, State of Michigan
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