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Old 08-18-2018, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Western North Carolina
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I too , noticed the smirk. They say a sociopath is a person with the mentality of a five year old. The smirk is him thinking he has one over on everybody just like a child hiding a secret. This reminds me of the Scott and Lacey Peterson case , these sociopaths are so calm and cool . I was married to a sociopath. His resting heart rate was low , always. Calm as a clam . This scares me to death that they are saying that 1 out of 25 are sociopaths in America. God help us all .
I was married to an extreme narcissist, a close second to the sociopathic personality. They have absolutely no feelings really for anyone else but themselves. Zero. Even for their own children. They can fake it really well, but only for a time. Eventually, their true nature is revealed.

This guy was playing the role of his life. The dutiful, supportive husband, working to provide the appearance of success, posing with the family in Mickey Mouse ears and reading the girls princess stories, always smiling ear-to-ear, feigning happiness at the news of his wife's pregnancy (seemed disingenuous to me in the video), all the while probably seething with hate and disgust. The dark side emerged. I feel there had to be at least some disturbing signals, but the wife wanted so much to believe that everything was OK I imagine. We women are often very good at giving the "benefit of the doubt" and continued forgiveness.

Most chilling to me is the doll covered with the sheet. I do not believe for one minute that the little girls posed that doll. I think he did it. He is Satan in an attractive facade.
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Old 08-18-2018, 10:06 AM
 
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I was married to an extreme narcissist, a close second to the sociopathic personality. They have absolutely no feelings really for anyone else but themselves. Zero. Even for their own children. They can fake it really well, but only for a time. Eventually, their true nature is revealed.

This guy was playing the role of his life. The dutiful, supportive husband, working to provide the appearance of success, posing with the family in Mickey Mouse ears and reading the girls princess stories, always smiling ear-to-ear, feigning happiness at the news of his wife's pregnancy (seemed disingenuous to me in the video), all the while probably seething with hate and disgust. The dark side emerged. I feel there had to be at least some disturbing signals, but the wife wanted so much to believe that everything was OK I imagine. We women are often very good at giving the "benefit of the doubt" and continued forgiveness.

Most chilling to me is the doll covered with the sheet. I do not believe for one minute that the little girls posed that doll. I think he did it. He is Satan in an attractive facade.
Yes, everything you describe is so true. My ex husband is an extreme narcissist and he was raised by two narcissists. His mother was absolutely gorgeous when younger and his father was a model in NYC and escorted movie stars down the aisle at Radio City back in the day. His mom is a raging somatic narcissist. The disorder is no joke. My ex played the role extremely well for the first several years of our marriage until he gained control of my dad's business after my dad sold it to him. Then the mask came off. Narcissists have no empathy and the people in their life are disposable props. It's extremely difficult, painful, and confusing coming to terms with the mask versus the real person that lurks beneath.

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Old 08-18-2018, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Western North Carolina
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Sociopaths can only give the illusion of being devoted and loving. They may enjoy having children as sources of entertainment or narcissistic supply, and may treat them adequately most of the time, until the children are old enough to develop their own personalities (which appears to have already happened with the little girl he described negatively) or to act out as all children do on occasion. That's often viewed as a challenge and a threat to not just parental authority but to one's very essence. So their father might well have viewed them both as a threat and a burden.

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Great post, and there is so much truth in this. I was married to someone with an extreme narcissistic personality, and you have described perfectly here how they feel towards their own children as they develop into becoming their own "persons". You have opened my eyes in some ways with your observations. I never could quite grasp how my ex could be so doting on our kids when they were infants and toddlers, but became so cold and uncaring, detaching himself from them and removing himself from their lives, as they matured.

The sad thing is, my ex-husband's father was the same way. I wonder what kind of man Chris Watt's father is.
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Old 08-18-2018, 10:11 AM
 
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A good psychological rule of thumb is that anyone that feels a need to regularly post gushing and sappy social media posts (Fakebook) and pictures of how great and wonderful and loving their spouse and family life is, odds are life is not so great behind the facade.
It’s always shocking when you’re friends with someone on Facebook who is constantly gushing about their spouse yet The next thing you know, they are getting a divorce. Really eye opening.
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Old 08-18-2018, 11:12 AM
 
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I was married to someone with an extreme narcissistic personality,
If you haven't' already, watch 'Girl on a Train' with Justin Theroux. He plays a gaslighting, crazy making narcissist husband and lots has been written about the movie on various narcissist support websites.
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Old 08-18-2018, 12:48 PM
 
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It’s always shocking when you’re friends with someone on Facebook who is constantly gushing about their spouse yet The next thing you know, they are getting a divorce. Really eye opening.
Several experts have pointed out this phenomenon.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-a7530911.html

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Nikki Goldstein, a sexologist and relationship expert from Australia, said the couples who share the most on social media are often just seeking reassurance about their relationship from others.

“Often it’s the people who post the most who are seeking validation for their relationship from other people on social media,” she told the Daily Mail. “The likes and comments can be so validating that when someone is really struggling, that’s where they get their up from – not the person making the gesture, but what other people say about it.”

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Old 08-18-2018, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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Is it ever NOT the parent? That is, whichever one who wasn't killed?
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Old 08-18-2018, 05:40 PM
 
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A good psychological rule of thumb is that anyone that feels a need to regularly post gushing and sappy social media posts (Fakebook) and pictures of how great and wonderful and loving their spouse and family life is, odds are life is not so great behind the facade.
Yes, it's almost like if they can convince others of their "perfect" life, they can then convince themselves. Six weeks was a long time for Shanann to be away from her husband in NC. Something does not seem right.

Many younger parents I know refuse to post much personal information, especially about their children, as they realize it might not be in their best interest in the long run. They have moved away from FB.

I cannot get over that photo of the doll covered up. Too neat and tidy for a 3 and 4 year old to manage. Just a terribly sad and tragic situation for a mother and two precious little girls.
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Old 08-18-2018, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Just seen on CNN. Police briefing upcoming.

Wife was pregnant....2 lovely little girls. I saw him last night, prior to the charges, talking about their "disappearance"...

he was nonchalant and at times smiling during the interview. Immediately I felt him insincere.

And so he was...
Can anyone tell me why, if this man is found guilty, that he should not be immediately put to death? This man cannot be “rehabilitated”, he has no redeeming qualities and has crossed a line from which there is no return. He deserves no mercy, none.
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Old 08-18-2018, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Gettysburg, PA
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Is it ever NOT the parent? That is, whichever one who wasn't killed?
I'm sorry, I'm not following though I've had a long exhausting day with about 2 hrs of sleep and a 3 hr nap long afterwards. What is ever not the parent, the one who wasn't killed?

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Most chilling to me is the doll covered with the sheet. I do not believe for one minute that the little girls posed that doll. I think he did it. He is Satan in an attractive facade.
That really chilled me too. And I usually don't get that way from pictures/movies things like that; they typically don't faze me too much.

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I cannot get over that photo of the doll covered up. Too neat and tidy for a 3 and 4 year old to manage. Just a terribly sad and tragic situation for a mother and two precious little girls.
I can't get over that either. It's like the creepiest thing I've seen in a long, long time after knowing what happened. If I had just seen it without the back story, I probably would have been like the mother thinking that's just kind of weird I guess for some kids to do. But knowing that the murder happened a short while later and he had to be thinking about this before hand is just like so disturbing.

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