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service people believe they deserve an excellent tip no matter how sub-par the service, I can see the attitude morphing in to tip them now at the beginning before you receive the pizza.
It's a good idea, no?
What's your job?
Do you think you customers should just be able to pay you whatever they feel?
This is why you don't let strangers have access to your food alone in their vehicle. It's chancy enough that cruds might do something in a restaurant kitchen.
If you disagree with the concept of tipping the proper response is to not patronize a business that uses it. If you know that a business relies on tipping as a part of the employee's wage and you refuse to tip "on principle" you are "screwing out" the employee, a choice you consciously make.
I do disagree with the concept, and I did not say that I don't tip, because I do tip, but that I think the model is not the way these businesses should be run. Small businesses should not get a pass for treating their employees poorly by not paying them for the work that they do. I should point out that I am very willing to pay higher prices if those higher prices include full wages for service employees.
For the record, I am a very generous tipper when someone does an exceptional job (over and above) and/or makes us feel truly special through their efforts, but it annoys me that tips have grown to be such a huge and expected part of dining out, especially the nonsense of tipping as a percentage of the meal. A waiter who delivers a $50 meal does not deserve a greater dollar amount tip than one who delivers a $20 meal. We nevertheless still tip, and usually 15%-17% with ordinary service, but I hate expected tipping so much that it is a major reason that we choose not to dine out as often as we once did. It takes away from the enjoyment of eating out. The other main reason is that restaurant food is rarely made from the high quality ingredients that we buy to eat at home. For example, we buy organic produce, mostly organic meat, eggs (pasture-raised) and dairy and that is not what you are getting at most restaurants.
I would prefer if prices include all costs and no tipping were expected or required. But tipping as a percentage of a meal is what bothers me most of all. It really irritates me that a waiter in an expensive restaurant who might do nothing more than take an order and then deliver it is actually working less than someone in a restaurant where many items are brought to the table in courses.
Small business owners need to step up and pay their employees a living wage and not expect their customers to do it for them.
If you disagree with the concept of tipping the proper response is to not patronize a business that uses it. If you know that a business relies on tipping as a part of the employee's wage and you refuse to tip "on principle" you are "screwing out" the employee, a choice you consciously make.
Given that a employee is not entitled to a tip, and that the employee would make at least minimum wage even if no one tipped, what are they being screwed out of?
A tip is to reward outstanding service, it’s not some default amount that an employee is entitled to, “just because.”
Given that a employee is not entitled to a tip, and that the employee would make at least minimum wage even if no one tipped, what are they being screwed out of?
A tip is to reward outstanding service, it’s not some default amount that an employee is entitled to, “just because.”
I get that legally employees are supposed to make minimum wage if they don't make sufficient tips, but I hope people are savvy enough to realize that things don't always work the way they are supposed too. I hope they realize that a lot of employers who are supposed to make up those insufficient wages count on the naivete or fear of their employees not to question that either.
I get that legally employees are supposed to make minimum wage if they don't make sufficient tips, but I hope people are savvy enough to realize that things don't always work the way they are supposed too. I hope they realize that a lot of employers who are supposed to make up those insufficient wages count on the naivete or fear of their employees not to question that either.
I understand that there are some people who will work for less than minimum wage, but what does that have to do with my post?
They don't agree to work for less than minimum wage. They have the expectation that they will make enough in tips, or if they don't make enough in tips to meet minimum wage their employer will make up the difference. Many of them them find out after the fact that their employers don't or won't make up the difference. People don't go into it thinking they'll be bringing home less than minimum wage.
People who don't tip, or cheap out on tipping, because they don't agree with the practice should stick with businesses that don't rely on supplementing wages with tips. If someone doesn't agree with the practice then they shouldn't support businesses that utilize it by patronizing them. Going to a restaurant where the servers rely on tips to make their wages and then refusing to tip 'on principle' is disingenuous.
They don't agree to work for less than minimum wage. They have the expectation that they will make enough in tips, or if they don't make enough in tips to meet minimum wage their employer will make up the difference. Many of them them find out after the fact that their employers don't or won't make up the difference. People don't go into it thinking they'll be bringing home less than minimum wage.
Illegal.
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Tips should not be percentage-based
