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My view is that they're not criminalizing being poor, they're criminalizing not taking advantage of shelter when it's available.
That's the problem. Shelter isn't available. It was on the local news that there are enough shelter beds for about ten percent of the homeless on the streets here. The mayor has said that it makes the city "safer". I fail to see how.
They can send them to Portland on a $39 flight.
Plenty of space on freeway frontage / traffic circles / city parks.
No hassles from police.
No air conditioning required. / lots of friends and dogs to associate with.
Can share RVs parked at city parks or try to get a spot at Dignity Village (homeless compound / self managed, so they are pretty picky about which homeless can stay there). https://dignityvillage.org/
Be careful about sending them to San Antonio. They have a "back-to-W-O-R-K " program.
But you are safe in Portland.
Seattle is a coffee city, so the homeless are caffeinated and violent (will rob you).
Portland is a beer city, mellow behaviors. Lots of bridges to live under when raining. River View, no property taxes!
Overall it's an American crime that so MANY homeless are sleeping on the streets in this Land of Plenty. Plenty of What? For starters Plenty of Greed on the parts of those with SO MUCH.
So what is L.V. going to do, put all the street sleepers in jail, that will give them a bed. Or fine them and get "all their money"....
And yet we spend billions on war machines...ooops..another sore topic. And yet thousands sleeping on the streets used those war machines around the world. Lived to come home to THIS.
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I wonder how long they'll be able to hide the news stories when the jails get filled with more poor people than actual criminals.
Whoever voted for this is stupid beyond belief. This is a clear example of sweeping a problem under the rug instead of actually helping to alleviate it.
You would think that would be obvious, wouldn't you? I agree this has absolut zero chance of success. Unfortunately this seems to be the new trend across the country. These plans to "clean" up the streets. They are going to just sweep the homeless people out with the trash, and they will be gone. This is just a sign that we have given up trying to solved the homeless problem.
Part of the problem I think is that most people today are too young to remember a time when this country didn't have a homeless problem. So they think homelessness is a normal thing. When I visited San Francisco for the first time in 1978, I remember how amazingly clean the streets were. I saw no trash anywhere. I could count the number of vagrants I saw on one hand. Maybe 2, 3, 4 all day long while walking around the streets. All of them were men. One incident I remember, seeing a guy sitting on a sidewalk on Market Street yelling at people and rambling incoherently. With in two minutes a San Francisco police car pulled up and two cops got out. They asked the guy one question. Do you need to go to detox or to the hospital? The hospital I believe ment mental health. Either way a van was going to show up and take him to get help. The next time I was there five years later, the city had changed a lot. It looked pretty much like it does to day. Too many homeless people to even count.
I don't see any possible way of solving the homeless problem without 1. Rebuilding the metal health system, and 2. Building enough affordable housing units to house all of the people who are now homeless. And I mean real homes, not homeless shelters.
Wtf. Isn’t Vegas surrounded by a f’ing desert. Put up a bunch of army style barrack tents. Build some Quonset huts, group showers etc. as a temporary shelter. Families, then men’s and women’s camps.
The biggest issue....lots of the homeless won’t want to live under rules of no drugs, no fighting no drinking. Those people can stay out. Take the ones who are willing to live under some rules.
The problem with homelessness is....... it’s a expensive fix
And nobody really wants to pay for it. Well at least nobody who has money.
There is too much money to be made in a crisis to end it. Lots of taxes being collected and laws changed in the name of stopping homelessness.
They can send them to Portland on a $39 flight.
Plenty of space on freeway frontage / traffic circles / city parks.
No hassles from police.
No air conditioning required. / lots of friends and dogs to associate with.
Can share RVs parked at city parks or try to get a spot at Dignity Village (homeless compound / self managed, so they are pretty picky about which homeless can stay there). https://dignityvillage.org/
Be careful about sending them to San Antonio. They have a "back-to-W-O-R-K " program.
But you are safe in Portland.
Seattle is a coffee city, so the homeless are caffeinated and violent (will rob you).
Portland is a beer city, mellow behaviors. Lots of bridges to live under when raining. River View, no property taxes!
Yeah, and then Portland can't spend $39 to ship them back to Vegas. It sounds like you must own a lot of airline stocks. LOL.
That's the problem. Shelter isn't available. It was on the local news that there are enough shelter beds for about ten percent of the homeless on the streets here. The mayor has said that it makes the city "safer". I fail to see how.
The mayor doesn't give a crap about the homeless, or about making the city safer. He just wants to push them out of the tourist areas and into hiding, so they aren't so visible.
Utah tried a "housing first" approach with mixed results, so I'm not sure that just giving them a place to live is the answer either.
I used to care. Not so much anymore.
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