Alec Baldwin and weapons handler charged with involuntary manslaughter
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Whether modified or not the last person using the gun is responsible for it's safe operation. There is no assuming it's safe.
This case is pretty much clear that's it's a manslaughter case. $$$, celebrity, high powered atty = getting away with a crime. OJ's a good example also.
Whether modified or not the last person using the gun is responsible for it's safe operation. There is no assuming it's safe.
This case is pretty much clear that's it's a manslaughter case. $$$, celebrity, high powered atty = getting away with a crime. OJ's a good example also.
This is not that way at all. They DID charge him, but once the information about the gun became known they no longer had a case. No prosecutor will try a case without a reasonable certainty of winning, and without being able to prove Alec pulled the trigger, they can't win (he claims he didn't, and the forensics people said with the modification that was done to the gun, it very well could have gone off without anyone pulling the trigger.) So again, there is no case.
How come you didn't bring up Casey Anthony? Her case isn't much different than OJ and she got off, so obviously it's not just that celebrities get away with things.
Whether modified or not the last person using the gun is responsible for it's safe operation. There is no assuming it's safe.
This case is pretty much clear that's it's a manslaughter case. $$$, celebrity, high powered atty = getting away with a crime. OJ's a good example also.
This has nothing to do with the OJ Simpson case at all. Again, there are people here who would probably send Alec Baldwin to jail for J walking if they could get away with it.
The armorer is still charged. They had nothing left of Baldwin case to win in court with once they discovered the gun was modified. It’s not the first time this has happened, I don’t think anyone was charged in Brandon Lee’s death. But it didn’t “encourage carelessness”, it took another 30-some years before it happened again.
I highly doubt Alec thinks it’s a cool story.
Pretty sure that anyone involved in the Brandon Lee incident who walked around talking about it like it was a cool story and bragging would have never worked on a set again. And while I was pretty young when The Crow came out, I've never heard of anyone acting like Lee's death was "bad ass" publicity for the film (though some likely would have gone to see it because it was his final performance, I'm sure). It's always been viewed as a tragic accident, like this will be once the people who're outraged over his SNL impersonations forget about it and move onto the next thing to be triggered over.
Last man holding gun is always responsible for it's actions. He should have checked to see if it was loaded or not. Even if there was a defect (though I doubt ir) he should have checked if it was live armed.
Pretty sure that anyone involved in the Brandon Lee incident who walked around talking about it like it was a cool story and bragging would have never worked on a set again. And while I was pretty young when The Crow came out, I've never heard of anyone acting like Lee's death was "bad ass" publicity for the film (though some likely would have gone to see it because it was his final performance, I'm sure). It's always been viewed as a tragic accident, like this will be once the people who're outraged over his SNL impersonations forget about it and move onto the next thing to be triggered over.
No one here has been talking about it like it’s a cool story or bragging either. Where are you getting that from? Who are you claiming was bragging about it? Who involved said it was “badass publicity”?
Whether modified or not the last person using the gun is responsible for it's safe operation. There is no assuming it's safe.
This case is pretty much clear that's it's a manslaughter case. $$$, celebrity, high powered atty = getting away with a crime. OJ's a good example also.
Actually its not a manslaughter case. NM law provides that someone who commits an act of criminal negligence resulting in a fatality can be charged with manslaughter. I read through the NM statute and there is no reference per se to criminal negligence. New Mexico caselaw though makes it clear that "negligence" as expressed in the manslaughter statute has to be criminal negligence rather than ordinary or civil negligence. See State v. Henley, 2010 NMSC-039.
In Baldwin's case, the gun may have malfunctioned and fired. Even if it did not malfunction I don't think its totally unreasonable to believe that a prop gun given him by the armorer was safe and unloaded. Hence, you don't have the facts that would make out a conviction for involuntary manslaughter under NM law.
Last man holding gun is always responsible for it's actions. He should have checked to see if it was loaded or not. Even if there was a defect (though I doubt ir) he should have checked if it was live armed.
You're making the same mistake I see a lot of my fellow gun owners make. You're trying to apply firearm safety rules to a situation where it doesn't apply. I can understand somewhat, Alec Baldwin is no friend to firearm enthusiasts and I can certainly understand why some of us want to see the book thrown at him for the death caused at his hand by a firearm no less.
But it's just not the same thing, and frankly it is making some people look very foolish.
No one here has been talking about it like it’s a cool story or bragging either. Where are you getting that from? Who are you claiming was bragging about it? Who involved said it was “badass publicity”?
The person you were responding to. They said this: "Great, these fools are now basically rewarded and encouraged for their carelessness. Free 'bad ass' publicity and a 'cool story' to peddle around."
You pointed out to them that what they are predicting as a result of this happening did not happen after Brandon Lee's death, and that Baldwin will likely NOT be walking around bragging about it, and I was in agreement.
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