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Does anyone know if Jensen Ackles has been or will be part of the trial? He has done lots of weapon handling on Supernatural. I wondered if he was or will be called to testify about his experiences on the set of this movie.
He was not on the list to testify and didn't.
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Originally Posted by Babe_Ruth
Yup.. armorer was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter, but not guilty on the evidence tampering charge. She was ordered in to custody until sentencing.
I think Baldwin's trial is scheduled for July..
Baldwin's trail in in July.
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Originally Posted by Metlakatla
She doesn't appear to have been very interested in doing the job properly.
It was not proven that the baggie had drugs in it or what kind of drugs were in it. The set "mom" who sat with her was given the baggie and she threw it away after walking out of her room because she has been sober for 30 years.
It was certainly a wild case. Baldwins will be pretty interesting to watch also. With all the civil lawsuits going on concerning this movie it's going to be a while.
It was not proven that the baggie had drugs in it or what kind of drugs were in it. The set "mom" who sat with her was given the baggie and she threw it away after walking out of her room because she has been sober for 30 years.
Yeah, I'm sure it was some innocuous something or other she just happened to be carrying around. Probably just baking soda.
I don't know what sort of weapons handler training she had. If she was just a gal off the street, typically those people are not nearly savvy enough to handle tools designed to kill.
OTOH Baldwin should have known better. If I were an actor on a movie set I'd make very very sure the firearms I was handling were disabled and not capable of firing a live round. And I would make sure there were no live rounds anywhere near the action. That there were, is pure negligence and insanity.
I heard that members of the cast used some of these guns for target practice during off hours. That means there were functioning firearms and live ammo on the set. That's not just a no-no, it's a NONONONONONO!
And this is what we get. One innocent dead person, several lives on hold or in fear of prison.
As the old saying goes, you don't hire a boy to do a man's job. Nor do you hire a girl to do woman's job. Armorer is not a good place to get unsupervised OJT.
Tragic in so many ways.
The revolver in question is a Colt Single Action Army, the firing mechanism for a blank is the same as for a live round. The difference is the blank generally is a "5-in-1" type blank cartridge which generally fits rather loose in .45 Colt and similar, it's tightest in a 38-40 WCF chamber.
There is no practical way to make a revolver uncapable of firing a live round but still able to fire a blank.
It's absurd to charge him when there never should have been live ammo on the set.
That had always been my position. He is not a gun expert and was told it was a cold gun so how could he be culpable? But then I realized, and learned, that he is not just some actor. This was his show, he was responsible for hiring an arborist who was underpaid and inexperienced, according to some posts he had her doing other tasks.
Bottom line he was responsible for a work environment that already had 2 other similar incidents and crew members waking off their jobs out of safety concerns.
That had always been my position. He is not a gun expert and was told it was a cold gun so how could he be culpable? But then I realized, and learned, that he is not just some actor. This was his show, he was responsible for hiring an arborist who was underpaid and inexperienced, according to some posts he had her doing other tasks.
Bottom line he was responsible for a work environment that already had 2 other similar incidents and crew members waking off their jobs out of safety concerns.
His show?
He is one of several producers. He was part of a team that was responsible for maintaining a safe work environment.
Why isn’t the rest of the team being held accountable? (And why isn’t anybody demanding such accountability?)
I have yet to see proof that he was involved in the hiring of the crew, let alone the sole decision maker around it. That certainly may have been part of his role, but I doubt either way that other producers weren’t involved. Somehow though, no one is calling for their heads.
Alec was the person who actually shot the gun! It’s obvious that he, after the Armorer who has just be found guilty of involuntary manslaughter, should be held accountable for the death.
That had always been my position. He is not a gun expert and was told it was a cold gun so how could he be culpable? But then I realized, and learned, that he is not just some actor. This was his show, he was responsible for hiring an arborist who was underpaid and inexperienced, according to some posts he had her doing other tasks.
Bottom line he was responsible for a work environment that already had 2 other similar incidents and crew members waking off their jobs out of safety concerns.
Alec was the person who actually shot the gun! It’s obvious that he, after the Armorer who has just be found guilty of involuntary manslaughter, should be held accountable for the death.
He had to do more than just shoot the gun to be guilty of involuntary manslaughter. You need to read up on the difference between criminal negligence and ordinary or civil negligence.
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