Arizona vs Colorado? (Glendale: 2015, amusement park, houses)

[BurtsBees]

Originally Posted by the3Ds

Phoenix is absolutely filthy. Every person who came to visit us would comment on how dirty the freeways were and how much garbage was flying around everywhere. Maybe it's because people don't take pride in where they live because they claim another state as their own. Who knows...but you will notice the trash right away.

100% incorrect. I just got back from a visit there and it is absolutely SPOTLESS. I was very surprised to see how clean freeways, streets, sidewalks, etc were there. Coming back to Detroit made it seem like I went back into a landfill.

[Mike from back east]

Originally Posted by BurtsBees

100% incorrect. I just got back from a visit there and it is absolutely SPOTLESS. I was very surprised to see how clean freeways, streets, sidewalks, etc were there. Coming back to Detroit made it seem like I went back into a landfill.

After having read the post by 3Ds, I think it was Phoenix that he said was so dirty, not Denver.

[missylou3322]

Yikes! I live in Denver (have only been here a month but....) and was raised in Gilbert, AZ a middle to upper middle-class sub of Phx and as soon as I graduated high school I got out of there. AZ is a vacation spot - not for real living. The weather is fine - hot, but fine. What I can't stand is the unnaturalness of it all. It isn't real by any stretch of the imagination! If you like malls and strip-malls and chain restaurants and playing the "keeping up with the Jones' " game then you will be very happy in Phx or any of its surrounding areas.

Once out of Maricopa Co it is wonderful. Beautiful and full of culture and history.

The valley does have a bunch of good Mexican food restaurants, a lot of scrapbooking stores and an expanding job market. Go for Denver. I have lived in several other cities that I have loved and I really do think we will be very happy here.

[BurtsBees]

Originally Posted by Mike from back east

After having read the post by 3Ds, I think it was Phoenix that he said was so dirty, not Denver.

I was referring to Phoenix....

[the3Ds]

Sorry...I stand by my previous post. We just returned from a trip to visit family in Phoenix and on the way back from the airport, we nearly hit a ladder that was sitting horizontally in the fast lane.

On the way to the mall, there was insulation blowing all over the freeway.

On the way to a restaurant, we counted 2 mattresses, numerous bags of garbage and more cigarette butts than I could count.

By the way, this was in Chandler...around a "nice neighborhood". The problem is that there are laws that prohibit people from cleaning in the freeway medians. Don't know why, but it just adds to the problem.

I guarantee you that you will be hard pressed to find someone who claims that Phoenix is as clean as you do. Not trying to be hostile...just stating the facts.

[wagonproject]

Thanks a lot for all the posts as this is one I am struggling on.

[zenkonami]

Originally Posted by the3Ds

Sorry...I stand by my previous post. We just returned from a trip to visit family in Phoenix and on the way back from the airport, we nearly hit a ladder that was sitting horizontally in the fast lane.

On the way to the mall, there was insulation blowing all over the freeway.

On the way to a restaurant, we counted 2 mattresses, numerous bags of garbage and more cigarette butts than I could count.

By the way, this was in Chandler...around a "nice neighborhood". The problem is that there are laws that prohibit people from cleaning in the freeway medians. Don't know why, but it just adds to the problem.

I guarantee you that you will be hard pressed to find someone who claims that Phoenix is as clean as you do. Not trying to be hostile...just stating the facts.

I do have to say, having lived in the Phoenix Metro area for about 14 years, that I never found it particularly dirty, just not particularly clean. Some parts of town better than others, of course, but for the most part so much of the "city" (or sprawl) is "new" that it hasn't really had time to get that dirty. Of course, I've been living in Los Angeles for a couple years now which probably jades my perspective even further. A freeway without paper plates, fast food wrappers, plastic drink bottles and diapers strewn along the shoulder isn't a real Angelino freeway! Nevermind the regular streets...

That said, I haven't been in Denver in a very long time, so it's possible that it's cleaner than Phoenix, but that just makes it even more appealing since I didn't think Phoenix was that bad.

[Brood Of Vipers]

Originally Posted by mark2544

Schools and wages suck in Arizona. Phoenix can be 116 F, in mid-October.

That's never happend. I will have to assume you've never been here. In October it can get up to 95, but that's it.

[TurcoLoco]

Originally Posted by Brood Of Vipers

That's never happend. I will have to assume you've never been here. In October it can get up to 95, but that's it.

Actually, it can get up to low 100s and it has in the last 2 years I have been here.
However, it does cool down quite a bit after Sun down which is a huge plus.

[Brood Of Vipers]

Originally Posted by TurcoLoco

Actually, it can get up to low 100s and it has in the last 2 years I have been here.
However, it does cool down quite a bit after Sun down which is a huge plus.

Mabey, but it's def. not typical. It certainly doesn't get up to 116