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Old 06-18-2017, 09:17 AM
 
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That's simple math; the propensity of mortgagors to benefit from itemizing is greatest in the first full year and declines every year they remain in their loan..
And on average homeowners sell or refi every 7-10 years. So we can keep playing the stats game but the facts are if half of homeowners with a mortgage do not itemize it's likely that more than half of all owners do not itemize and thusly receive no tax benefit from owning
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Old 06-18-2017, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Riverside Ca
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As if first-time buyers would not be prompted by their own curiosity to look into such an important matter or be urged by home-owning or otherwise more savvy friends and family to do so.
I have a few friends who bought houses. They do not itemize. It's more beneficial to them to take the standard deduction. Nothing wrong in looking into tax saving measures, but do the research. Don't just assume the loan guy and the agent know what's your best interest or that they actually know what they're talking about. They are simply throwing out impressive "facts" to sell you a house.
I itemize so for me the deduction is good. But it's not the deciding factor on buying a house
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Old 06-18-2017, 05:19 PM
 
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One of the ridiculous claims made here was that buyers are simply too dumb to be aware of what the tax effects would be in the case of a new home purchase. That claim is, was, and always will be worthless rubbish.
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Old 06-18-2017, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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We do not itemize. Too much income, so deductions are phased out. No mortgage interest, no state income taxes.
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Old 06-18-2017, 06:16 PM
 
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You should open an equity line and use it to retain a qualified tax attorney.
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Old 06-18-2017, 06:31 PM
 
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One of the ridiculous claims made here was that buyers are simply too dumb to be aware of what the tax effects would be in the case of a new home purchase. That claim is, was, and always will be worthless rubbish.
Can you provide anything that supports your stance? Seeing as how half of mortgage holders don't itemize and so many people don't understand our progressive taxation system, how the tax bracket work or how deductions may or may not impact their liability Im overly curious as to how you are forming your opinion
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Old 06-18-2017, 06:43 PM
 
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Can you provide anything that supports your stance? Seeing as how half of mortgage holders don't itemize and so many people don't understand our progressive taxation system, how the tax bracket work or how deductions may or may not impact their liability Im overly curious as to how you are forming your opinion
Theories that rest on an assumption that "everyone is dumb" do not need formal refutation. They are just baseless slop from the get go.

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Old 06-18-2017, 06:51 PM
 
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Theories that rest on an assumption that "everyone is dumb" do not need formal refutation. They are nothing but baseless slop from the get go.
You are halfassing now. You know that a large amount of Americans don't understand the federal taxation system. You also are aware that half of mortgage holders dont itemize, that a large percentage of people don't understand marginal brackets or that overtime isn't taxed any different than other wages. So instead of halfassing and insisting you are correct provide some backup instead of your bs responses
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Old 06-18-2017, 07:22 PM
 
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Everyone has presumably passed middle school math. It does not take anything more than that to fill out a 1040 and attach Schedule A.
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Old 06-18-2017, 07:47 PM
 
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Everyone has presumably passed middle school math. It does not take anything more than that to fill out a 1040 and attach Schedule A.
Passing middle school math in no way suggest the average American has ever filled out a 1040 or schedule A. In other words you dont have crap to support your stance. Your stance is in total contradiction with the average american's comprehension level of our taxation system
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