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You haven't made any argument that has nearly as much validity as the ramblings of a schizophrenic bum on a street corner.
Nothing you've said has any basis in reality or real world experience. Everything with you is an excuse for why your ideas have never worked and never will. It's always the big, bad guys ruining your worker's paradise because they just can't stand to let people see the beauty of your ideas. It's never the fact that your ideas just suck, go against human nature, and are completely unworkable. No, you'll never accept that fact. You'll just keep blaming it on big, bad capitalist fat cats.
Your goal is to get people here mired up in your nonsense, refuting your idiotic arguments which are so beyond the pale that it's as pointless as arguing with that schizophrenic bum about whether the sky is blue or potato. There's just no argument that can be made to bring common sense to someone that lives entirely outside of it.
You've started all of ZERO businesses and done all of SQUAT with your life, so how can anyone argue the real world with you when you live entirely in fantasy land?
You rail on and on about evil capitalists exploiting poor workers yet you don't support yourself (Volunteering at a prison does not a rent, groceries, clothing, and bills pay). Talk about hypocritical. You're leeching off others, not contributing anything of material value, while parasiting off the work of your fellow human beings. Then you turn around and spew nonsense about capitalist this and worker that. How about you trying being either one instead of just a mooch with too much time on his hands?
Maybe then people would at least hear your nonsense out before dismissing you as just another raving lunatic.
Tell that to the Kurds or the Zapatistas.
A free society where power is structured horizontally is not only doable but also desirable. The constructs of such a society are already here with worker cooperatives, credit union banks, and electric cooperatives I’m the United States taking up larger shares of the economy.
According to natural law. You can’t claim ownership on the output of someone else.
Natural law isn't the governing law in America. The Supreme Court doesn't evaluate laws based on natural law, but based on the Constitution. States have their own constitutions and the state courts evaluate their laws based on those constitutions. Cities and towns have ordinances that they abide by and their courts rule by.
Go to court, any court, and make a claim based on natural law, let us know how you make out.
Natural law isn't the governing law in America. The Supreme Court doesn't evaluate laws based on natural law, but based on the Constitution. States have their own constitutions and the state courts evaluate their laws based on those constitutions. Cities and towns have ordinances that they abide by and their courts rule by.
Go to court, any court, and make a claim based on natural law, let us know how you make out.
I know, state law supports private tyranny. That is why I endorse change. Until then expanding the cooperative economy is good enough.
and you're doing such a good job of spreading the message, just look at how many converts you have in this thread alone.
Many more silent readers as well.
When People understand that over 100,000,000 people in this country use credit union banks, electric cooperatives, and employee ownership and see socialism as Kurdistan and Chiapas, not China and North Korea, it will become more popular.
What you underestimate is the fact that there is immense propaganda to silence domestic talk of socialism as the elite fear it will grow too popular.
yeah all those prior attempts at this type of society worked out so well they don't exist today.
Credit unions and electric coops - cheaper prices for basic services. Look at where most of bank deposits are, and it's not in credit unions. Employee ownership? Compensation alternative, generous tax laws and succession estate planning for private company owners.
I'm not underestimating anything. You're overestimating the importance of things that aren't.
yeah all those prior attempts at this type of society worked out so well they don't exist today.
Credit unions and electric coops - cheaper prices for basic services. Look at where most of bank deposits are, and it's not in credit unions. Employee ownership? Compensation alternative, generous tax laws and succession estate planning for private company owners.
I'm not underestimating anything. You're overestimating the importance of things that aren't.
Your underestimating that an economy built in opposition to these things, with laws to protect private ownership and create a feedback loop still fails to stop 100 million people participating in these activities. It shows just how strong the will of the people is against established powers.
Furthermore the system works today in Kurdistan, Chiapas, and all over the global economy. It is the function by which capitalism is allowed to survive.
Your underestimating that an economy built in opposition to these things, with laws to protect private ownership and create a feedback loop still fails to stop 100 million people participating in these activities. It shows just how strong the will of the people is against established powers.
Furthermore the system works today in Kurdistan, Chiapas, and all over the global economy. It is the function by which capitalism is allowed to survive.
Those economic powerhouses of Kurdistsn and Chiapas - talk about shock and awe. Wow.
And you keep bringing up the 100 million number for credit unions. Who cares? My dad opened up a credit union account for me when I was 10 so I’m one of the 100 million. All of my primary banking is with regular federally chartered banks as I’m sure is the case for a majority of those 100 million. It’s not a revolution, it’s comparison shopping for some basic services.
I don't, I think companies should be worker run democratically since they are the ones who keep the company operating, not the ones who manage the capital.
Have a business degree do you?
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