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View Poll Results: The country with the best economic system is:
Canada 7 8.33%
Japan 5 5.95%
Germany 12 14.29%
China 3 3.57%
United States 43 51.19%
Denmark 2 2.38%
Norway 6 7.14%
Australia 6 7.14%
Voters: 84. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-18-2020, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Spain
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Lots more opportunity for us
I'm pretty sure by economic opportunity he wasn't referring to being able to move somewhere retired and spend less money.
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Old 02-18-2020, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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The US economy already provides access to good shelter, water, healthy food and the best health care.

By the same token, then, every citizen should have:

- the OBLIGATION to eat healthy food, and avoid junk food like the plague, which it is, a plague;

- the OBLIGATION to drink healthy water, and not sugar-contaminated poison;

- the OBLIGATION to at least engage in some daily physical movement;

and therein lies the best health care that individual citizens can give to themselves individually and collectively;

- the OBLIGATION not to take on a financial commitment for more shelter than they can afford.


Adults of able body and mind sitting around, whining and complaining, waiting for others to provide the basics, which they already have access to, can never be right.

True, we all do also have the OBLIGATION to provide young people with access to every opportunity possible to help them prosper, which includes strict education in healthy lifestyle choices, and to help others who have suffered misfortune despite trying to do the right thing, but not to deliver them "rights" for the sake of it.

Because it simply doesn't work that way, not even in la-la land.

Now, I could agree that the US needs better policies to ease access to health care services, which may include a single-payer system (meaning everybody pays through one financial intermediary), but it is a complex issue riddled with special interests, and indeed it's disgusting.

Good Luck!
And just how do you plan to impose these "obligations"??????

Far out! und seig Hiel!
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Old 02-19-2020, 12:09 AM
 
Location: Oregon, formerly Texas
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The last time I went to the doctor, I was charged $500 for a dose of Tylenol. Not a bottle, an effing dose. And about 7-9 minutes face-time with a nurse and P.A.

I have insurance through my job. Goes toward my $1700 deductible, which goes up every year. And for this privilege, my employer is paying about $16k per year to the insurance company on my behalf, and I'm paying about $2.5k. We have to spend $20k per year before they'll pay for my damn urgent care visit to check my throat. Keep in mind that my clinic's website says that "sore throat" is something for urgent care, so I did what I was supposed to.

Any country that finds that acceptable does not have the best system.
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Old 02-19-2020, 02:07 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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And just how do you plan to impose these "obligations"??????
They should take it upon themselves as ideologically pure libertarian curmudgeons, of course.
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