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Old 07-13-2011, 11:23 AM
 
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Well, if you want to support someone as wise an an old owl, and who's angry at the way this country's run, then why don't you support John McCain.
I'd be THRILLED if he ran again! He would of made a good president. Start writing to Arizona and his office and tell him we want HIM to run for President.

He's wise, he's experienced, he's got great background in the military, his forefathers were in the military for years.... his constituents like him in AZ, he's NOT for the illegals coming in and taking all our tax money...

While I like Palin, and hate to see her keep being mistreated over & over, i'd prefer that McCain, would run again! I think he should .Yes, he's old, but he's got wisdom and plenty of governmental background and lots of experience.
Our country, could use a person like that... Not all these younger middle agers who just get plenty of notice cuz they can speak in a "pretty" and "interesting" political way, like Obama.

you know, if it wasn't for the internet, I don't think Obama would have been elected president. He ran a good percentage of his campaign off the internet.. no one bothered to start reading articles about him, irl, like in newspapers, he got lots of campaign money too off the internet, millions, right at the point, he was almost going to lose to McCain.

Why did Palin give up her job as a governor in Alaska to begin with? Was it all the rants stated against her? I was sad to hear that... but what reason did she give?
You still want to paint her as this "ditzy" cannot do a thing, type of woman. She's a mother of 5 children, one in the service, and she's climbed up from living in a small town to running an entire state.
i've heard many good things about Palin, when she was running for office for VP, from residents of Alaska. Yes, she did do good things for the people of Alaska.
And if she wanted to raise taxes on big businesses, why is that a problem? they have the profits, not the little guy so much.
I'd still much rather see Sarah Palin as president, than be forced to have to go thru the same garbage we've had to in the last 3 years with Obama. He's ruining our country. There's no mistake about it....
And speaking of spending money, he seems to have no problem, going to countless vacations... spending money like he's some kind of millionaire (oh, that's right, he is a millionaire) and just not doing what he's supposed to.. saving the U.S. economy.
Because of that, the rest of the free world, is also suffering too. Cuz the American economy is doing so bad, that's affecting the rest of the world too. I just heard that Spain's unemployment rate was 20%! that's bad...
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Old 07-13-2011, 11:30 AM
 
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Default haha. this post is funny....

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Somehow I think this is the most likely demographic to support Palin. Unfortunetly, they've got another decade and change until they can vote.
well, i've been on it a bit longer than 3-5 years, but i wish I had another planet I could have gone to, in the last 3-5 years... at least the last 3 years!

Obama's rule sucks!

Now, tell me, what does Ron Paul stand for? What kind of drugs is he talking about legalizing?
Just pot? Or is he talking about cocaine, heroin, crack, etc?

I don't think that to continue, either, to make this nation, more "liberal" is really going to help much either quality guy.

It's become so "liberal", it's become rather crazy, imho. The young kids' morals now are so out there, it's frightening... Yeah, you'd rather give "health benefits", which would be free, to a "partner" of a gay person, who's not having babies, and can easily work a job, than to give any type of disability benefits to the disabled, half of whom are so unhealthy, they cannot have any kids at all, and are so sick or injured, they cannot work to support themselves at all!
That's SO liberal!
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Old 07-13-2011, 11:37 AM
 
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well, i've been on it a bit longer than 3-5 years, but i wish I had another planet I could have gone to, in the last 3-5 years... at least the last 3 years!

Obama's rule sucks!

Now, tell me, what does Ron Paul stand for? What kind of drugs is he talking about legalizing?
Just pot? Or is he talking about cocaine, heroin, crack, etc?

I don't think that to continue, either, to make this nation, more "liberal" is really going to help much either quality guy.

It's become so "liberal", it's become rather crazy, imho. The young kids' morals now are so out there, it's frightening... Yeah, you'd rather give "health benefits", which would be free, to a "partner" of a gay person, who's not having babies, and can easily work a job, than to give any type of disability benefits to the disabled, half of whom are so unhealthy, they cannot have any kids at all, and are so sick or injured, they cannot work to support themselves at all!
That's SO liberal!
I believe the Libertarian view of drugs is make them all legal.
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Old 07-13-2011, 11:37 AM
 
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well, i've been on it a bit longer than 3-5 years, but i wish I had another planet I could have gone to, in the last 3-5 years... at least the last 3 years!

Obama's rule sucks!

Now, tell me, what does Ron Paul stand for? What kind of drugs is he talking about legalizing?
Just pot? Or is he talking about cocaine, heroin, crack, etc?

I don't think that to continue, either, to make this nation, more "liberal" is really going to help much either quality guy.

It's become so "liberal", it's become rather crazy, imho. The young kids' morals now are so out there, it's frightening... Yeah, you'd rather give "health benefits", which would be free, to a "partner" of a gay person, who's not having babies, and can easily work a job, than to give any type of disability benefits to the disabled, half of whom are so unhealthy, they cannot have any kids at all, and are so sick or injured, they cannot work to support themselves at all!
That's SO liberal!
Ron Paul has never-- ever-- said he would legalize drugs.

He has said he will leave drug legalization and enforcement up to the states. Therefore, if for example-- you live in Texas, your Texas congress or governor would be able to decide whether drugs would be legal in your state.

However, the media likes to slander what Ron Paul says, they'd never report his real stance on the issue-- they'd rather trick you into believing he is in favor of a federal mandate for drug legalization (which is not true!).
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Old 07-13-2011, 11:40 AM
 
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I believe the Libertarian view of drugs is make them all legal.
Also, Ron Paul is not a libertarian. He is a constitutionalist / or a conservative Republican. I am a REAL libertarian, and trust me, there is a BIG DIFFERENCE.

However, the media would have you believe he is a libertarian. (He is not!)
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Old 07-13-2011, 11:43 AM
 
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Ron Paul is a constitutionalist? so he backs the u.s. constitution? hmmm... and he's also a conservative Republican? Hmmm. i'll have to look him up
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Old 07-13-2011, 11:48 AM
 
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well, here's what the Associated Press is saying about Ron Paul.. interesting..
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updated 7/13/2011 12:40:07 AM ET 2011-07-13T04:40:07
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AUSTIN, Texas — U.S. Rep. Ron Paul said Tuesday he will concentrate on running for president and will not seek re-election to Congress, ending a 24-year career as one of the more colorful members of the House of Representatives.
The 75-year-old Republican said he will serve out his term through December 2012, whether his presidential campaign is successful or not. He told The Associated Press he has been criticized for running for Congress while seeking the presidency in the past.
Paul said the growing support for his 2012 presidential bid convinced him he should not divide his energies. He won a straw poll at the Republican Leadership Conference held in New Orleans last month.
"I think that you have more credibility if you run for only one office at a time," Paul said. He acknowledged that he may miss some House votes because of the presidential campaign, but that his staff would continue to provide constituent services.
As for the issues he feels passionately about, including U.S. foreign and economic policy, he said he will continue to fight for those either as president or from outside government.
"I believe I can continue to do what I have been doing outside of Congress," Paul said. "I was ready for a change."
The leader of the Republican Caucus in the Texas Legislature, state Rep. Larry Taylor, said Paul's retirement offers a "rare opportunity" for someone new to take the seat.
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"I have received encouragement from conservative leaders across Texas this afternoon," Taylor said. "It is an opportunity that I will consider very seriously in the coming weeks."
Paul said that he was disappointed in how his district was redrawn by the Texas Legislature following the 2010 census. His new district is less heavily Republican.
"The district was weakened, there were a lot of new people, and it didn't overly excite me, but it isn't the reason" for not running again, Paul said.
Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, congratulated Paul on his career in Congress.
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"Ron has served Texans in Congress with distinction for nearly 24 years as a fierce advocate for a more limited government," Cornyn said. "His steadfast devotion to his core beliefs has earned him the respect and loyalty from Texans and Americans of all walks of life."
The Texas Democratic Party appeared to relish Paul's presence in the presidential race, especially given another potential candidate from Texas, Gov. Rick Perry.
"Ron Paul has long been an unorthodox politician, someone who's defied GOP politicians as well as Democrats," party spokeswoman Kirsten Gray said. "He's likely to carry that quality into the GOP presidential field, where he could cause problems for Rick Perry and other Republicans by calling them out for the hypocrisy and inconsistency within their party."
Perry is weighing whether to enter the race for the GOP presidential nomination, and has been reaching out to Republican officeholders in New Hampshire and Iowa.
Paul, a former obstetrician, has served 12 terms in Congress from a Southeast Texas district along the Gulf Coast south of Houston. He was first elected in 1976 in a special election, but later lost the general election. He won again in 1978, but stepped down in 1984. In 1988 he ran for president as a Libertarian.
He launched another congressional campaign in 1996, defeated a Republican incumbent and has remained in office since then.
Paul's mix of libertarian and Republican politics has prompted many to call him the "intellectual godfather" of the tea party movement. He opposes U.S. military involvement overseas, wants to remove marijuana from the federal list of controlled substances and believes the United States should return to the gold standard.
He has introduced legislation to abolish the Internal Revenue Service and the Federal Reserve, which he said is designed to "deceive and defraud the American people."
Personal responsibility and more power to the states are Paul's hallmarks. He opposes federal flood insurance, farm subsidies and the Department of Education, earning him the nickname "Dr. No."
Paul has routinely turned down pork-barrel spending for his own district, but has earned praise at home for refusing to sign up for lucrative pension benefits to which he is entitled as a member of Congress. He is the author of six books on politics and monetary policy.
His son, Rand Paul, represents Kentucky in the U.S. Senate."
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Old 07-13-2011, 11:53 AM
 
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Also, Ron Paul is not a libertarian. He is a constitutionalist / or a conservative Republican. I am a REAL libertarian, and trust me, there is a BIG DIFFERENCE.

However, the media would have you believe he is a libertarian. (He is not!)
Thanks for correction!
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Old 07-13-2011, 03:26 PM
 
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Well, if you want to support someone as wise an an old owl, and who's angry at the way this country's run, then why don't you support John McCain.
I'd be THRILLED if he ran again! He would of made a good president. Start writing to Arizona and his office and tell him we want HIM to run for President.

He's wise, he's experienced, he's got great background in the military, his forefathers were in the military for years.... his constituents like him in AZ, he's NOT for the illegals coming in and taking all our tax money...
i'd prefer that McCain, would run again! I think he should .Yes, he's old, but he's got wisdom and plenty of governmental background and lots of experience.
Our country, could use a person like that...

you know, if it wasn't for the internet, I don't think Obama would have been elected president. He ran a good percentage of his campaign off the internet..

Why did Palin give up her job as a governor in Alaska to begin with?
You still want to paint her as this "ditzy" cannot do a thing, type of woman.
I don't want to paint Palin as a ditz. She does it to herself.
She simply can not answer a question with a direct
answer. It's as if she does not comprehend what is being
asked. There is no genuine depth when she speaks.
She comes off as dumb and parroting.

I hear she comes off better via emails, but I don't think
a President can run a country that way.

I'm libertarian, so I would wager that
John McCain and I would disagree on being in Iraq for over
100 years

John McCain is also for amnesty
(though he won't say it publicly as such)
He has very compassionate open border thinking with
Mexico that I agree with.

McCain might have won, if he didn't pick Palin. That,
and he came off very forgetful and awkward at times
during the campaign. Some thought, senility. With
Palin as his VP - it was a dangerous scenario.

Why Palin quit being governor - she said it was because
of the lawsuits and being a lame duck governor that
would cost taxpayers of AK money. Others said she
just couldn't resist the easy buck offers outside of
governorship. I think she took the money, while the
iron was hot. Not blaming her - as Don King says
"Only in America"
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Old 07-13-2011, 03:50 PM
 
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she (Ron Paul) simply can not answer a question with a direct
answer. It's as if she (he) does not comprehend what is being
asked. There is no genuine depth when she (he) speaks.
She (he) comes off as dumb and parroting.

And the majority of Republicans knew (Paul) was a dangerous scenario in 2008....and still is.
Well done. You just accurately described Ron (Libertarian) Paul

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