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It is lengthy but gives a different view of how the encounter with Shepard and the murder actually came about. The trial prosecuted the crime as a "hate crime" against a gay. The information 20/20 presents is post-trial and is worth reading.
No the trial did not prosecute the crime as a "hate crime". There was no "hate crime" statute in Wyoming at that time.
The 20/20 story relied heavily on the stories (often contradictory) of one of the murderers (McKinney), and his friends, and has been criticized for it's flaws.
No he wasn't, you're spreading a lie. ABC debunked that myth years ago, it was a drug deal and robbery gone bad, plain and simple. Heck, the limo driver said that the punks even pulled " tricks" with Shepherd to score meth. I watched the entire report when it first came out. The murder was horrific and those punks should get the death penalty, but to say he was killed because he was gay is a blatant lie. You were lied to and are now guilty of unwittingly spreading that lie.
It was a television story made for ratings, not a trial.
No the trial did not prosecute the crime as a "hate crime". There was no "hate crime" statute in Wyoming at that time.
The 20/20 story relied heavily on the stories (often contradictory) of one of the murderers (McKinney), and his friends, and has been criticized for it's flaws.
I put "hate crime" in quotes to indicate the prosecution's case was centered around the hateful nature of the crime, was it not? Certainly, the press coverage emphasized that.
The ABC 20/20 show showed other factors were also in play but there are people posting on this thread who want to believe this dreadful crime was a "hate crime" against a gay, pure and simple, and that there was no other reason for it.
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I am gay and I can agree, gays do need to "restrain themselves"......but, straights need to learn the same thing. What someone does in their bedroom, living room, kitchen floor, backseat or random staircase or elevator, is NO ONES BUSINESS, and really doesn't need to be advertised.
People know I am gay, it isn't discussed, they just know....some things are obvious without having to ask, at the same time, when I introduce myself, I don't go up to them and say, "Hi my names Jake and I'm gay". Why should ANYONES sexuality be such a big deal. WHO CARES???
Exactly!
No one cares.
Keep your sex life between you and you sex partner(s).
You don't see heterosexuals showing up at kindergartens to promote a radical self-serving agenda.
Keep your sex life between you and you sex partner(s).
You don't see heterosexuals showing up at kindergartens to promote a radical self-serving agenda.
So it's okay for a gay couple to show up at a kindergarten play or open house so long as they don't play kissy-face in front of the kids? Or are you labeling their just showing up as "promoting a self-serving agenda"? How far do you want gay couples to go to keep their "sex life" between themselves? Be in the closet 24/7 or are they allowed to appear in public together and---gasp---maybe even hold hands like heterosexuals do?
People can't....and won't ''get over it''....because moral people know it is WRONG,.....and unacceptable....and civilized people will always stand against homosexual activity.
This moral, civilized person sees nothing 'wrong' with homosexuality or 'homosexual activity'.
Casper, you totally misunderstood my remarks, I didn't mean for gays to "get over it" I meant all this crap about I am gay, I am straight, So and so is gay, so and so is by: that is what I meant. I happen to have a lot of gay friends, many of my clients are gay, my bosses are and my foster daughter is: none of them spend their time constantly on the subject of straight versus gay. They have all matured past that stage in life. I might add, they are all professional and successful in their fields.
Nita
Well, I don't spend all of my time obsessing on the topic either. Thing is, this forum and particularly this thread (and others like it) is for discussing such things. So, of course, you might see the same names in such threads all the time and make the assumption that So&so spends all his or her time doing nothing but discussing sexuality. You'd be wrong, but it would be the natural assumption.
Telling the truth about the sin of homosexual ways is not hatred. Of course....those who seek to distort and deflect the truth....try to label anyone who speaks out against homosexuality....as a hater. Perhaps, if you meet your Creator, and let HIM reveal His position regarding homosexuality.....you might be able to see clearly...and not spew lies about other people's factual comments....as mine are.
Romans Chapter 1 is God's position regarding homosexual lifestyle. HIS Word leaves no doubt.
Romans, chapter 1 is about idolatry and idolaters using sex in their worship of idols.
It is lengthy but gives a different view of how the encounter with Shepard and the murder actually came about. The trial prosecuted the crime as a "hate crime" against a gay. The information 20/20 presents is post-trial and is worth reading.
The bolded is impossible because no such law existed until after the fact.
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