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Old 08-07-2012, 01:42 PM
 
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Oh wait, you've been to the Harry Reid school of politics, haven't you. Too lazy to research, or are you afraid of what you will find?
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Did he promise 5.2% or was it a projection? Got a link to what he actually said?
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Old 08-07-2012, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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This was a chart that was made prior to Obama taking office. It was made while we all knew things were bad, but no one yet knew how bad. It was made prior to us knowing that we were losing 700k jobs a month + during the end of the Bush administration. It was made prior to anyone knowing the last three months of the Bush administration we would lose 2.2 million jobs.
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Old 08-07-2012, 01:46 PM
 
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Oh wait, you've been to the Harry Reid school of politics, haven't you. Too lazy to research, or are you afraid of what you will find?

Nuance and parsing is the BEST Liberals can do when caught in a lie.

I don't really care if you call it a promise or not.

Obama published a graph on the White House website AND released a blue book outlining how his Stimulus would result in 5.2% unemployment by now.

No matter what you want to call that, it CERTAINLY mislead the American people!!!!
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Old 08-07-2012, 01:50 PM
 
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This was a chart that was made prior to Obama taking office. It was made while we all knew things were bad, but no one yet knew how bad. It was made prior to us knowing that we were losing 700k jobs a month + during the end of the Bush administration. It was made prior to anyone knowing the last three months of the Bush administration we would lose 2.2 million jobs.

Funny...if any of that's true, then WHY did the graph appear on the WHITE HOUSE website leading up to the vote on the Stimulus which was taken AFTER he was sworn in as President?

And why did Obama release a blue book outlining that to Congress when they were considering weather or not to vote for the Stimulus?

And why does the WSJ article appear stating what the White House promise was after he was sworn into office?


PS: The excuse that they didn't know how bad it was just EXEMPLIFIES Obama's stupidity anyhow.
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Old 08-07-2012, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Funny...if any of that's true, then WHY did the graph appear on the WHITE HOUSE website leading up to the vote on the Stimulus which was taken AFTER he was sworn in as President?

And why did Obama release a blue book outlining that to Congress when they were considering weather or not to vote for the Stimulus?

And why does the WSJ article appear stating what the White House promise was after he was sworn into office?


PS: The excuse that they didn't know how bad it was just EXEMPLIFIES Obama's stupidity anyhow.
The Stimulus packaged was something that was worked on for several months. The chart was put together by his transition team a month before Obama took office. NO ONE knew how bad it actually was NO ONE. Not, Obama, not McCain, not Bush, not the Democrats, not the GOP. Everyone knew we were losing jobs at a pretty rapid pace during that time, however the loss of 2.2 million jobs during the last three months of the Bush administration was on no one's radar.
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Old 08-07-2012, 01:59 PM
 
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The Stimulus packaged was something that was worked on for several months. The chart was put together by his transition team a month before Obama took office. NO ONE knew how bad it actually was NO ONE. Not, Obama, not McCain, not Bush, not the Democrats, not the GOP. Everyone knew we were losing jobs at a pretty rapid pace during that time, however the loss of 2.2 million jobs during the last three months of the Bush administration was on no one's radar.

Sounds like a pipe dream to me!

You just admitted that Obama was SO far out of his league he didn't deserve to be elected.

And, nothing you said there explains why he made a promise he couldn't keep.
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Old 08-07-2012, 02:06 PM
 
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Sounds like a pipe dream to me!

You just admitted that Obama was SO far out of his league he didn't deserve to be elected.

And, nothing you said there explains why he made a promise he couldn't keep.
If you are going be the definition o judging how bad things were before the jobs numbers were released, than no one deserved, because no one knew.

As far a promise, Obama didn't really make any promise. It was something that his transition team made and where they thought the unemployment rate would be if the Stimulus was passed based off the data that was available at that time. From the data that was available at the time the chart was made to the time the Stimulus was passed upwards of 3 million jobs were lost, to the time any of the Stimulus actually took effect the loss was around 4 million.
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Old 08-07-2012, 02:32 PM
 
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If you are going be the definition o judging how bad things were before the jobs numbers were released, than no one deserved, because no one knew.

As far a promise, Obama didn't really make any promise. It was something that his transition team made and where they thought the unemployment rate would be if the Stimulus was passed based off the data that was available at that time. From the data that was available at the time the chart was made to the time the Stimulus was passed upwards of 3 million jobs were lost, to the time any of the Stimulus actually took effect the loss was around 4 million.
They play it safe and Obama is smart. If things turn out well, he takes the credit. If they don't, he blames Bush. It's a win-win.
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Old 08-07-2012, 03:45 PM
 
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When you tell Americans you are going to spend $1 Trillion of their tax dollars (or actually borrow it from the Bank of China) and promise them that they will be back to work as a result, then this is MORE than just an un-meaningful promise.
Obama uniltaterally spent $1 trillion for job creation? Please, by all means, provide some links.
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Old 08-07-2012, 03:48 PM
 
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Nuance and parsing is the BEST Liberals can do when caught in a lie.

I don't really care if you call it a promise or not.

Obama published a graph on the White House website AND released a blue book outlining how his Stimulus would result in 5.2% unemployment by now.

No matter what you want to call that, it CERTAINLY mislead the American people!!!!
Obama likely overestimated his own presidential abilities to affect the economy. Ironic as you seem to have believed Obama was going to fix everything too, otherwise your many threads on how much Obama has not fixed the economy would not exist.
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