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Old 09-25-2012, 11:16 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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And how did you make the leap that I expected anybody but myself to "foot the bill" for my own kids?

I tried to make the point that sometimes things happen - husbands die, husbands abandon the family, whatever, leaving mothers on their own to support their children.

And then you made the ASSumption that I was dependent on you and others like you to support my kids.

Newsflash! I worked two, and sometimes three, jobs to support my family.

The fact is, that other than a year on food stamps (when they actually were still "stamps") right after the ex abandoned the family, and a few months getting EBT benefits while I was briefly unemployed (which I promptly canceled as soon as I got a job), I have received no "hand outs" (unless you want to count the SSI disability I get now because of being injured on the job, and after eight surgeries, am now permanently disabled).

So, don't worry.......none of your precious pennies went to help raise my kids.
Except they actually did. I'm in a higher tax bracket than you, so I pay a MUCH HIGHER effective federal income tax rate AND receive far fewer benefits per tax dollar paid.

If we had a flat tax, you'd have a point. But we don't, so you have no point.
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Old 09-25-2012, 11:30 AM
 
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I don't understand why conservatives think liberals aren't responsible for themselves.
Because generally, they aren't.
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60-80% of welfare recipients are Democrats
Super-Economy: Are Welfare Recipients mostly Republican?

Sources: Campbell Public Affairs Institute and NPR
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Old 09-25-2012, 11:35 AM
 
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I never said it was. If you didn't let your ADD kick in after the first sentence, you would have read the part about PROPERTY TAX. At least, that's how it was funded in my state.
I'm not the one with ADD. Romney wasn't talking about property tax. He was talking about federal income tax.

No one has any clue why you would bring property taxes into the discussion. They're completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.
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Old 09-25-2012, 11:39 AM
 
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I'm willing to pay for higher taxes as long as the same people who have benefited over the last 10-15 years pay their fair share
Define "fair share."
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Old 09-25-2012, 11:40 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Illegal aliens aren't eligible to vote. Just keep talking.
But, they might have relatives who ARE eligible to vote...
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Old 09-25-2012, 11:42 AM
 
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I guess my mom should have killed me when my dad died when I was six weeks old. After all, she was a single mother.
Hyperbole is the mark of the intellectual midget.

Combine resources with others... family members, friends, etc. People CAN and DO support themselves and their children without resorting to government handouts.
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Old 09-25-2012, 11:44 AM
 
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But, they might have relatives who ARE eligible to vote...
Are you saying a certain demographic of US citizens would aid and abet those who are committing criminal offenses?
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Old 09-25-2012, 11:55 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Are you saying a certain demographic of US citizens would aid and abet those who are committing criminal offenses?
If you consider voting 'aiding and abetting'.
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Old 09-25-2012, 12:27 PM
 
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If you consider voting 'aiding and abetting'.
It's the being in the country illegally part. You're claiming a certain demographic knows people who are in the country illegally and does nothing about it.

Accessories to crimes? Interesting...
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:05 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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It's the being in the country illegally part. You're claiming a certain demographic knows people who are in the country illegally and does nothing about it.

Accessories to crimes? Interesting...
Of course. Lets start with Bank of America/Mexico.
Then (legal) relatives of people here illegally.
Yes, I do wish these people could be tried as accessories.
And I wish all the illegals could be deported.
It's getting to be an invasion, now.
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