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Old 10-21-2015, 12:17 AM
 
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So far I haven't met a single Bernie Sanders supporter who is doing well. From the conversations I've had with them, they tend to be completely clueless about how to build wealth or how the economy works.

For example, I just had a conversation yesterday with a Bernie Sanders supporter who was talking about how Wall Street needs to be taken down. I told him I started with very little in the stock market and have been growing my account very nicely. Literally every person I know who had a nice retirement got it from the stock market using strategies any person can use. You can buy a balanced mutual fund with some stocks and bonds and add to it each year whatever you can whether it is $1,000 or $10,000. Your investment will compound year after year and within 30 years, you're looking at a huge retirement. However, the guy I was speaking with said, he would never invest anything in the market whether it's bonds, mutual funds, stocks, even if he was offered a 401k. Someone like this will never be able to build a nice retirement and it isn't the system's fault, it's his own stubbornness and lack of knowledge.

Seriously, are all Sanders supporters like this?
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Old 10-21-2015, 12:26 AM
 
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No.

Anything else?
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Old 10-21-2015, 12:26 AM
 
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So far I haven't met a single Bernie Sanders supporter who is doing well. From the conversations I've had with them, they tend to be completely clueless about how to build wealth or how the economy works.

For example, I just had a conversation yesterday with a Bernie Sanders supporter who was talking about how Wall Street needs to be taken down. I told him I started with very little in the stock market and have been growing my account very nicely. Literally every person I know who had a nice retirement got it from the stock market using strategies any person can use. You can buy a balanced mutual fund with some stocks and bonds and add to it each year whatever you can whether it is $1,000 or $10,000. Your investment will compound year after year and within 30 years, you're looking at a huge retirement. However, the guy I was speaking with said, he would never invest anything in the market whether it's bonds, mutual funds, stocks, even if he was offered a 401k. Someone like this will never be able to build a nice retirement and it isn't the system's fault, it's his own stubbornness and lack of knowledge.

Seriously, are all Sanders supporters like this?
Most of his supporters like his idea of stealing money from those that have it believing they will get that money from the wealthy.

They are that stupid.
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Old 10-21-2015, 12:28 AM
 
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Most of his supporters like his idea of stealing money from those that have it believing they will get that money from the wealthy.

They are that stupid.
On top of what you said, they think they can get all the services Denmark offers, while not having to pay the same tax rates as them while allowing illegals to flood in our country. We have 11 million illegals and Denmark only has 5 million people. Countries like Denmark are able to offer those services because they have extremely strict borders, even for legal immigration and tax the ____ out of their citizens, including the poor and middle class. On top of that, their standard of living is much lower than most American households. Things like dishwashers and washer/dryers aren't standard items in most households.
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Old 10-21-2015, 12:33 AM
 
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On top of what you said, they think they can get all the services Denmark offers, while not having to pay the same tax rates as them while allowing illegals to flood in our country. We have 11 million illegals and Denmark only has 5 million people. Countries like Denmark are able to offer those services because they have extremely strict borders, even for legal immigration and tax the ____ out of their citizens, including the poor and middle class.
10.4% of their population is foreign born. Not that far from our number of 12.9%.

And most people understand the costs associated with the benefits. What might surprise you is that we pay a little under what Denmark does as a % of of GDP for medical care. Sooo...we would save money if we had a system like Denmark.
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Old 10-21-2015, 12:34 AM
 
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10.4% of their population is foreign born. Not that far from our number of 12.9%.

And most people understand the costs associated with the benefits. What might surprise you is that we pay a little under what Denmark does as a % of of GDP for medical care. Sooo...we would save money if we had a system like Denmark.
Who rations health care.

No thanks.
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Old 10-21-2015, 12:37 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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So far I haven't met a single Bernie Sanders supporter who is doing well. From the conversations I've had with them, they tend to be completely clueless about how to build wealth or how the economy works.

For example, I just had a conversation yesterday with a Bernie Sanders supporter who was talking about how Wall Street needs to be taken down. I told him I started with very little in the stock market and have been growing my account very nicely. Literally every person I know who had a nice retirement got it from the stock market using strategies any person can use. You can buy a balanced mutual fund with some stocks and bonds and add to it each year whatever you can whether it is $1,000 or $10,000. Your investment will compound year after year and within 30 years, you're looking at a huge retirement. However, the guy I was speaking with said, he would never invest anything in the market whether it's bonds, mutual funds, stocks, even if he was offered a 401k.

Seriously, are all Sanders supporters like this?
The stock-market is nothing but a massive ponzi-scheme, driven by speculation and unlimited monetary expansion driven by manipulated interest rates.

The reason the income tax was created in the same year the Federal Reserve was created, is because of the nearly unlimited amounts of "fake-wealth" that can be created through this system. It is a "trickle-down" system, which allows an elite few to control the entire economy(IE to enslave and direct everyone else).

The stock-market needs to be destroyed. Limited-liability corporations were the worst idea ever. It produces nothing but a bunch of arrogant ****-tards, who pretend like they are better than everyone else, because their retirement account has a very unnatural exponential-growth factor, thus allowing them to amass huge amounts of "wealth on paper", while pretending they are so much smarter than everyone else. When in reality, they should be thanking the government and our corrupt banking system, for keeping most people impoverished, while enriching those at the top.


With that said, I am not a Bernie Sanders supporter. He is a SJW pansy, a new-world order Marxist, and his pandering to morons makes me want to vomit
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Old 10-21-2015, 12:37 AM
 
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Who rations health care.

No thanks.
My friends From Denmark actually did not experience that issue.

My mom however did. She lived here in the US. Being poor rationed it pretty effectively for her.
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Old 10-21-2015, 12:39 AM
 
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The stock-market is nothing but a massive ponzi-scheme, driven by speculation and unlimited monetary expansion driven by manipulated interest rates.

The reason the income tax was created in the same year the Federal Reserve was created, is because of the nearly unlimited amounts of "fake-wealth" that can be created through this system. It is a "trickle-down" system, which allows an elite few to control the entire economy(IE to enslave and direct everyone else).

The stock-market needs to be destroyed. Limited-liability corporations were the worst idea ever. It produces nothing but a bunch of arrogant ****-tards, who pretend like they are better than everyone else, because their retirement account has a very unnatural exponential-growth factor, thus allowing them to amass huge amounts of "wealth on paper", while pretending they are so much smarter than everyone else. When in reality, they should be thanking the government and our corrupt banking system, for keeping most people impoverished, while enriching those at the top.


With that said, I am not a Bernie Sanders supporter. He is a SJW pansy, a new-world order Marxist, and his pandering to morons makes me want to vomit
Case and point lol, how do you help people who think they know it all? You can't, which is why people like Sanders are popping up so everyone can live off the government.
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Old 10-21-2015, 12:48 AM
 
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Case and point lol, how do you help people who think they know it all? You can't, which is why people like Sanders are popping up so everyone can live off the government.
The reason Bernie Sanders is "popping up", is because this country is a democracy. Democracy means equality.

Furthermore, the creation of the "Welfare state", many decades ago, foreshadowed a growing dependence on government. When something like half of all children get food stamps, what do you expect?


Democracy is socialism.
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