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Old 10-22-2015, 07:21 PM
 
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It's NOT easy to get around that and it's no one else's business how a person or a group of people want to spend their money.

If a group of people want to pool their money to argue that Planned Parenthood should be funded how is it the right of anyone to tell them they can not do that?
It's a bad policy result as we are seeing in our elections. It's not hard to see how quickly our elections are inflating in costs to benefit those who can afford those costs.

There is the forest and the trees. The forest is burning for the trees.
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Old 10-22-2015, 07:32 PM
 
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It's a bad policy result as we are seeing in our elections.
Sorry, why would you allow your vote to be bought?
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Old 10-22-2015, 07:43 PM
 
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If people weren't lazy idiots, Super Pacs, anonymous donors etc would be meaningless. If people would do their own research on candidates instead of stuffing their faces at home and just watching tv ads and making all their decisions based on those, elections couldn't be influenced by money, so at the end of the day, you can only blame yourself.
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Old 10-22-2015, 07:45 PM
 
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If people weren't lazy idiots, Super Pacs, anonymous donors etc would be meaningless. If people would do their own research on candidates instead of stuffing their faces at home and just watching tv ads and making all their decisions based on those, elections couldn't be influenced by money, so at the end of the day, you can only blame yourself.
I completely agree with you here.
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Old 10-22-2015, 07:45 PM
 
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Sorry, why would you allow your vote to be bought?
158 families in the United States have provided half of the campaign funding to capture the White House. 138 of them to the GOP candidates and the remaining 20 to the Democrats (Clinton).

These families will get what they want from the candidates once in office.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...=top-news&_r=0

What about the remaining 120 million households in the United States? What about 99.9999% of the people?

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Plutocracy, is a form of oligarchy and defines a society ruled or controlled by the small minority of the wealthiest citizens. The first known use of the term was in 1652.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutocracy
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Old 10-22-2015, 07:46 PM
 
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158 families in the United States have provided half of the campaign funding to capture the White House.
We've covered this.
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Old 10-22-2015, 07:50 PM
 
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We've covered this.
I can't remember. Do you support the current plutocratic system?
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Old 10-22-2015, 07:53 PM
 
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I can't remember. Do you support the current plutocratic system?
I support you being responsible for your vote and quit blaming your problems on others.
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Old 10-22-2015, 08:09 PM
 
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I support you being responsible for your vote and quit blaming your problems on others.
So how do you expect to fix the system if you do not want to get money out of politics? The corporate controlled media are not going to educate people. Are you going around informing people about this?

Are you basically just giving up?
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Old 10-22-2015, 08:11 PM
 
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So how do you expect to fix the system if you do not want to get money out of politics?
Vote. Why would you vote a second time for someone that lies to you?

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The corporate controlled media are not going to educate people. Are you going around informing people about this?

Are you basically just giving up?
I've always voted. Well, since 1980.
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