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Old 01-11-2016, 11:40 AM
 
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Why would Cruz's spokesperson spout that misinformation? The enumeration list is what is used at the polling stations - if you are on the list you can vote.

Apparently, you didn't read the article. A spokesperson for the Canadian Elections board explained that the list was compiled by workers going door to door and asking the name of the persons living at the residence. There was not requirement to show an ID or prove eligibility to vote to have your name on that list.
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Old 01-11-2016, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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If he was a Canadian I think he should not be eligible. So the question is, was he ever a Canadian?
His parents moved him to the US when he was 4. Tell me, what kind of divided national allegiance could he possibly have had?

There's a very long list of reasons why Cruz should not be president. This isn't one of them.
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Old 01-11-2016, 11:47 AM
 
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LOL - The answer is that Cruz is eligible to run for President.
Nope. I've posted several times on why he is not. Hint: has to do with well-established international law.
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Old 01-11-2016, 11:48 AM
 
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Trump is the ultimate Birther (though he doesn't like to discuss it now) and I'm not surprised that he's harping on this issue. Just enough - to try and plant that seed of doubt in anyone's mind that might vote for Cruz.
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Old 01-11-2016, 11:52 AM
 
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My understanding is that if one of your parents is an American citizen, then you are an American citizen.

It doesn't matter where you are born.

Of course, there are situations that can make this less certain. Say your mother is a U.S. citizen, but your father is a German citizen. You might be expected by the U.S. or by Germany to make a choice -- or apply for dual citizenship.

The requirement that the President be a "natural born" U.S. citizen implies to a lot of people that he or she has to have been born in the U.S. or in one of its possessions.

Anyway, there is enough confusion here to give constitutional scholars, lawyers, and judges an opportunity to raise a stink.

Trump seems to recognize that.

His stated concern is that the Democrats will challenge Cruz's qualification to be President if Cruz becomes the Republican nominee.

Whereas, with Trump as the nominee, there is no basis for such a challenge.

Trump thus becomes a "safer" Republican nominee than Cruz.

And since Cruz is Trump's biggest challenger right now, it makes sense for Trump to advertise that fact.

Full disclosure: I support Trump.
You are also a rational individual. You are correct regarding citizenship. There are certain other requirements. Say, only one parent is a US Citizen, but not by birth. Instead, say your father was a citizen of Cuba and so was your mother, but your mother became a US citizen before you were born. Four years after obtaining US Citizenship, your parents moved to Brazil, where you were born. In that instance, you may not be considered a US Citizen, since your mother was not a natural born citizen and had only been a US citizen for 4 years before your birth, you may not be eligible to run for president. I know that there was an issue like that discussed with regard to Obama's mother, since she was only 19 when he was born, but then again, I really didn't pay all that much attention to the whole birther nonsense.
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Old 01-11-2016, 11:53 AM
 
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So he was raised by a communist father? No problems there, for sure.

LOLZ, you are adorable! cueball. Just adorable.
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Old 01-11-2016, 12:04 PM
 
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Why did Cruz renounce his Canadian Citizenship only recently? Did he actually carry a Canadian passport? Did Cruz recently take advantage of the Canadian Welfare system? Did he pay any taxes to Canada? If so, would you be comfortable with a guy, who was running around with the papers of a foreign country?
I would pay money to see Ted Cruz go through the crap he subjected President Obama to. We need to see it go through every single court system that exists legally and I want to see him provide pieces of evidence after pieces of evidence.
Cruz is hated by so many Republicans in the Senate, I bet you, they would all love to see him disappear from the scene. I expect these Senators to do a very deep vetting job on Cruz.
Pass the pop corn, please ...
1. Why did Cruz renounce his Canadian Citizenship only recently? He only learned of the Canadian Citizenship in August 2013, when it was reported in a Dallas newspaper. Before that time, he had absolutely no knowledge of the dual citizenship, nor did his parents. Upon learning about it, Cruz began the process to renounce the Canadian citizenship. And within less than a year, his dual citizenship was revoked and he has been solely a US Citizen (to his knowledge, since birth) officially since 5/14/2014.

"This is to certify that the person named above has formally renounced Canadian citizenship and pursuant to the Citizenship Act will cease to be a citizen on" May 14, 2014, [scribd]229039536[/scribd]the letter read[/url].

2. Did he actually carry a Canadian passport? NO Cruz had no knowledge of the Canadian citizenship until 2013 which he immediately took steps to revoke, so there would never have been any reason for him to carry anything but a US Passport.


3. Did Cruz recently take advantage of the Canadian Welfare system? NO


4. Did he pay any taxes to Canada? NO. Cruz has only lived in the United States since his parents returned the US in 1974, when he was 4 years old.

Cruz never commented about Obama's eligibility and had nothing to do with any investigation of said eligibility, so your desire to fund this boondoggle is nothing but spite and sour grapes.
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Old 01-11-2016, 12:08 PM
 
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Trump is the ultimate Birther (though he doesn't like to discuss it now) and I'm not surprised that he's harping on this issue. Just enough - to try and plant that seed of doubt in anyone's mind that might vote for Cruz.
That is Trump's point. He plays dirty and that allows you a glimpse into what his presidency would be like.

This article sums of Trump:

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Admit It: You Just Want Your Own Dictator

Read more at: Donald Trump & Vladimir Putin: Strong Leaders?
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Old 01-11-2016, 12:27 PM
 
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It is NOT relevant. His mother is a US citizen (which makes him a citizen) and she lived in the United States for the prescribed number of years. There is no case here.

Why didn't you ask to see Obama's birth certificate, which we still have not seen (the one purported to by his b/c was a phony). By the same standards/laws that Barack H. Obama has been declared "qualified," so is Cruz.
As much as I am loathe to agree with the nonsenseguy, I do agree that Cruz is eligible by virtue of his mother's citizenship. Still, it's amusing that even as nonsenseguy is claiming that, he still can't resist getting in a dig at the president and his "phony" BC. Too, too funny, considering that Obama was born in the U.S. and has the State of Hawaii backing him up, and Cruz wasn't even born on U.S. soil and produced a Canadian BC that looks like it came from a Cracker Jacks box.

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Old 01-11-2016, 12:32 PM
 
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1. Why did Cruz renounce his Canadian Citizenship only recently? He only learned of the Canadian Citizenship in August 2013, when it was reported in a Dallas newspaper. Before that time, he had absolutely no knowledge of the dual citizenship, nor did his parents. Upon learning about it, Cruz began the process to renounce the Canadian citizenship. And within less than a year, his dual citizenship was revoked and he has been solely a US Citizen (to his knowledge, since birth) officially since 5/14/2014.
This makes him a pretty crappy "Constitutional scholar" doesn't it? A guy who, A, knew he was born in Canada; and B, purportedly closely studied the Constitution, but never put two and two together? He doesn't sound bright enough to be the president to me.
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