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Old 01-13-2016, 09:07 AM
 
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Are you supporting Bernie's positions more or Hillary's more? If going by electability, the latest poll shows Sanders leading Cruz by 19% in the important swing state NH, while Hillary is losing by 4% to Cruz.

The "strongest candidate" is losing to Ted Cruz in NH!!! Similar numbers regarding Trump.

People need to realize that Sanders is the strongest candidate as he has so much more cross-party appeal than Hillary and Hillary is unable to create the type of excitement that Bernie is getting which brings more people who previously didnt vote out to vote. People who support the policies of Bernie should not feel the need to pick Hillary even if they dont want to because of "electability".

Not surprisingly, Mike, all the betting markets currently have Hillary as the STRONG FAVORITE to win the presidency...

2016 Presidential Election Odds | Next US President | Oddschecker


LONGSHOT Sanders is running WELL BEHIND Donnie Hot-Head and Marco The Puppet.

These odds are generated by people betting REAL MONEY on the outcome of the contest ... not by a bunch of clowns popping off on an internet message board ... or to some pollster.


PLEASE abandon your little fantasy, Bernie cheerleaders.

We simply CANNOT AFFORD republican INCOMPETENCE in the White House...
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Old 01-13-2016, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Those are the same nations that allow immigrant men to gang rape native women and then tell the victims they should've dressed more modest and not gone out allow after sundown. I'll pass.
Gang rapes happen in the US as well, we aren't special.
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Old 01-13-2016, 09:12 AM
 
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Your sources are old....I can find sources that say the money was paid back...
Old or not they explain what happened. I explained how it was paid back. Obviously you aren't interested in the facts.
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Old 01-13-2016, 09:14 AM
 
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And why can't poor kids take loans or work hard and get academic scholarships? Sounds like sour grapes to me? I wasn't from a rich family and I did not ask for my college tuition to be paid for by everyone else..

Why can't Wall Street absorb their losses and or go out of business like everyone else has.to?
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Old 01-13-2016, 09:15 AM
 
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It's pretty straightforward, jkbatca.

The disheveled old guy from VT basically has ZERO CHANCE to win a general election in this country.

Bubba's wife is our BEST BET to keep a dem in there.

Do you, or your fellow MISGUIDED Bernie cheerleaders, really want another INEPT republican administration in the White House?
There is no difference in Hillary and an inept Republican.
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Old 01-13-2016, 09:29 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Why can't Wall Street absorb their losses and or go out of business like everyone else has.to?
That should have happened to Fannie and Freddie, as well.

Instead, the Federal Reserve bought $2 Trillion worth of Agency MBS and debt. That's MUCH higher than the Wall Street bailout.
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Old 01-13-2016, 09:37 AM
 
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That should have happened to Fannie and Freddie, as well.
It should have. The administration has said many times they were winding it down but yet it is still buying up loans. I'm sure many of them bad loans.

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Instead, the Federal Reserve bought $2 Trillion worth of Agency MBS and debt. That's MUCH higher than the Wall Street bailout.
To be paid back by the taxpayers.....and its wrong for us to want some of it back?
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Old 01-13-2016, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Honolulu
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Cause right now it's socialism for the rich and "capitalism" for the rest of us. If you think the GOP and the republicans are for truly free market economy then you are in for a big surprise. The current system is a form of socialistic-capitalism...where the state and corporations collude to make big bucks while shafting the rest of us.

I don't agree with giving huge power to govt either...I think a libertarian-socialist view is probably a good combination of both. Note in this context "socialism" means democratic control of things at the local levels and NOT a centralized/planned economy
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Old 01-13-2016, 10:06 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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It should have. The administration has said many times they were winding it down but yet it is still buying up loans. I'm sure many of them bad loans.
Of course they are.

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To be paid back by the taxpayers.....and its wrong for us to want some of it back?
Why did the Federal Reserve buy them in the first place? Because taxpayers were on the hook for that $2 Trillion, anyway. They were GSE-guaranteed MBS.

The REAL question is why did the GSEs lower their lending standards so much that they bought no/low down payment loans made to unqualified buyers?

Answer: Clinton-era HUD Affordable Lending goals:

https://www.huduser.gov/publications/pdf/gse.pdf
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Old 01-13-2016, 10:14 AM
 
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Of course they are.

Why did the Federal Reserve buy them in the first place? Because taxpayers were on the hook for that $2 Trillion, anyway. They were GSE-guaranteed MBS.

The REAL question is why did the GSEs lower their lending standards so much that they bought no/low down payment loans made to unqualified buyers?

Answer: Clinton-era HUD Affordable Lending goals:

https://www.huduser.gov/publications/pdf/gse.pdf
That weren't changed and continued to get worse under Bush.
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