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Old 01-12-2016, 08:19 PM
 
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Are you arguing they are? Clearly your citing the spending bill as evidence otherwise, right?

There isnt a conservative running that has a chance of winning, hell I just started a thread citing he similarities between Trump and Sanders for gods sake. Both of them are protectionists after all, just different strategies..
So you are going to stay home while I vote for someone I hope will do some of the things I want done?
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Old 01-12-2016, 08:26 PM
 
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The four-time socialist LOSER Debs, eh, Cheesesteak.


You're exactly the kind of useful idiot that Hot-Head Donnie or Marco The Puppet is counting on...
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Old 01-12-2016, 08:28 PM
 
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LMFAO, how many <bleeping> times have we been through "vote for the least worst" and then watch the person you voted for act and vote horribly and against everything you stood for? Haven't we had enough of this idea already? For the love of everything holy, if people can't learn from their mistakes made over and over and over again, we get the crap we deserve. Heck, even amoebas can learn from getting bad stimulus over time so why can't human beings?




Oh brother ... looks like another MISGUIDED Bernie backer...
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Old 01-12-2016, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Texas
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If you havent made an argument for or against it, which I admit is true, then your posting really holds nothing of substance, which I also concede is the truth.

I mean really, how can someone have a discussion with someone else who cant really tell others how they feel about whats being discussed?
I thought we could find some common ground by exchanging thoughts on what we approved of and didn't approve, of eachother's favored candidates.

Anyway, you mentioned that we're taxing small American businesses out of existence so I'll post relevant information on that:

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Small business owners are hit twice by the effects of tax dodging by large multinational corporations. Since they almost never have the kind of subsidiaries in the Cayman Islands or armies of tax lawyers and accountants to exploit tax haven loopholes that their multinational rivals do, small businesses are routinely placed at a competitive disadvantage in the market place.
In addition, small businesses, like average taxpayers, end up picking up the tab for offshore tax avoidance in the form of higher taxes, cuts to public services, or increases to the federal
debt. In this report, four small business owners share why offshore tax haven abuse matters to them in their states.
Source: http://www.uspirg.org/sites/pirg/fil...Tab%202015.pdf

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3) The Federal Reserve needs to provide small businesses in America with the same low-interest loans it gave to foreign banks. During the financial crisis, the Federal Reserve provided hundreds of billions of dollars to foreign banks and corporations including the Arab Banking Corporation, Toyota, Mitsubishi, the Korea Development Bank, and the state-owned Bank of Bavaria. At a time when small businesses can't get the lending they need, it is time for the Fed to create millions of American jobs by providing low-interest loans directly to small businesses.
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsro...in-wall-street

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The $42 billion small business package signed into law last week will help Vermont companies gain access to much-needed funds, helping them grow – and create jobs. The legislation includes $12 billion in tax relief and a $30 billion lending fund.

“In the midst of the very difficult recession that we’re in, helping small businesses receive affordable credit is imperative," said Sen. Bernie Sanders. "Small business creates most of the new jobs in this country and it’s important that we do everything we can to help them."
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsro...nesses-a-boost

As far as corporations moving overseas. If the stability of our country is so dependent on entities that bear no allegiance to us, then we have some serious questions to ask ourselves...

Here are some of his bill proposals:

Corporate Dodging Prevention Act
Corporate Tax Fairness Act
Stop Corporate Inversion Act 2015
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Old 01-12-2016, 08:35 PM
 
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The old man could never win a general election in this country.

Time for you misguided Bernie backers to let go of your little fantasy and get behind the supremely-qualified wife of the iconic Bubba.

Get a grip ... we simply can't afford another incompetent republican administration in the White House...
You better believe it, he is having far more cross-party appeal than Hillary which is very divisive and it shows in the head-to-head polling with Republicans where Bernie is doing much better than Hillary against Cruz and Trump. Hillary nomination is low voter turnout 2014 mid terms all over again for 2016, thats my prediction.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwDY2rO9lWM

People want real change, meaning a candidate in the mold of FDR, Truman and Eisenhower like Bernie Sanders, presidents who actually fought tooth and nail for salt of the earth Americans and took on the special interests, lobbyists and donor class that is undermining American democracy. Get on board Market Junkie, the train is flooding with new Bernie Sanders supporters now and the new NYT poll has Bernie leading Hillary by 45-40 among men nationally and he is up 10% among women as well. Among people under 45 years old he is leading Hillary 60% to 31%!

CBS/NYT poll: Hillary Clinton's lead over Bernie Sanders shrinks - CBS News

The Bernie train has plenty of room for more passengers and you are welcome on board!

This video is a good video that addresses the electability you are talking about.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB-mfZl65rU
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Old 01-12-2016, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The four-time socialist LOSER Debs, eh, Cheesesteak.


You're exactly the kind of useful idiot that Hot-Head Donnie or Marco The Puppet is counting on...
Would you vote for the other party simply because it was projected they were going to win?
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Old 01-12-2016, 08:58 PM
 
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I like your enthusiasm, Mike ... but you're HIGHLY delusional if you think the old man can win in the general.

Now PLEASE stop your misguided, foolish protest and get behind our strongest candidate...
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Old 01-12-2016, 08:59 PM
 
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Would you vote for the other party simply because it was projected they were going to win?

I wouldn't vote for a pub even if they promised me a winning Powerball ticket tomorrow...
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Old 01-12-2016, 10:41 PM
 
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Oh brother ... looks like another MISGUIDED Bernie backer...
Remind me again why voting for the lesser of two evils is a good plan?
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Old 01-12-2016, 10:47 PM
 
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I like your enthusiasm, Mike ... but you're HIGHLY delusional if you think the old man can win in the general.

Now PLEASE stop your misguided, foolish protest and get behind our strongest candidate...
LOL here we have "Market Junkie" and his "strongest candidate" is in the hip pocket of Wall Street. Color me shocked
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