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Old 02-09-2016, 09:31 AM
 
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No it hasn't been covered. You're wrong and you know it. Stop thinking it's acceptable to raid American workers' and retirees' pension plans and retirement accounts to pay for Sanders' pipe dreams. It's unacceptable. Period.
What is acceptable to you is like others, to complain while offering no real solutions while things continue to go into a hole.

No one that still defends Bush has any qualifications to be taken seriously over anything.

The tax on main street would be miniscule while making their investments more secure by getting rid of some of the volatility.
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Old 02-09-2016, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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I absolutely CANNOT get on board with Sanders and his proposal to add a new tax to American workers' pension plans and retirement accounts. No way. No how.

Given what you state above (in bold), you should feel the same way.
I agree. It is misguided. Waste has to be carved out of D.C., Inc. More money for government means more money for the Billionaire Class.

A well thought out healthcare system is also needed instead of the abomination that we now have that is costing us 18% of our GNP, 50% more than all other developed nations with worse results. It is despicable how Obama gave Big Pharm all it wanted and it is costing us dearly.
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Old 02-09-2016, 09:33 AM
 
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Heck, I'm just now catching up with this new attitude in our country. I'm becoming current, hip. I'm joining the Gimme crowd. Free college, free healthcare, free housing, free phones, free internet. Gimme is all the rage these days.
It beats free war and free get out of jail cards for crashing the economy.
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Old 02-09-2016, 09:36 AM
 
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You are full of it. You are the one who injected the deficit into the convo.


Further, more than 65% of Federal spending goes to Social Security, Unemployment, Medicare, Health Care and all the other Entitlement programs.


Taxes are not the only way to reduce deficits. And, even if I believe the proposed costs of new freebies that he's proposing, the taxes he plans to raise would only cover that, not the existing deficit.


But, as I said, that was not the topic of this thread and if that's what you want to discuss I'm sure there is already a thread on that or you can start a new one.
19 trillion and counting....I can always tell when I'm on the right side of things when those on the other side dodge and weave to avoid addressing questions.

How are we going to address the 19 trillion and how is whoever you support arguing to do that?
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Old 02-09-2016, 09:36 AM
 
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You seriously expect 1 person to change the political views of everyone in America?

If that was the bar to clear to be a successful president, then nobody qualifies.

What???????????


Some of ya'll have serious problems with reading comprehension.


Bernie hasn't been able to change the views of the Congress he's worked with for over 25 years........so no I don't believe he will be able to change political views of very many people at all and thus he will be an ineffective President if elected.
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Old 02-09-2016, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Keosauqua, Iowa
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The tax on main street would be miniscule while making their investments more secure by getting rid of some of the volatility.
So by "more secure" I assume you mean less of a chance at suffering a loss but absolutely no chance of outpacing inflation?
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Old 02-09-2016, 09:37 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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What is acceptable to you is like others, to complain while offering no real solutions while things continue to go into a hole.
Adding a new tax to American workers' pension plans and retirement accounts ISN'T the solution. Come up with something else.

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The tax on main street would be miniscule while making their investments more secure by getting rid of some of the volatility.
BS. There is $27 Trillion invested in American workers' and retirees' financial retirement assets and they're constantly in flux given the constant deposits and draws by millions of people.
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Old 02-09-2016, 09:38 AM
 
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Heck, I'm just now catching up with this new attitude in our country. I'm becoming current, hip. I'm joining the Gimme crowd. Free college, free healthcare, free housing, free phones, free internet. Gimme is all the rage these days.

Hardly what the real revolutionaries of this country fought for.
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Old 02-09-2016, 09:38 AM
 
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What???????????


Some of ya'll have serious problems with reading comprehension.


Bernie hasn't been able to change he views of the Congress he's worked with for over 25 years........so no I don't believe he will be able to change political views of very many people at all and thus he will be an ineffective President if elected.
Which will still be better than what we have accomplished the last 16 years.
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Old 02-09-2016, 09:39 AM
 
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So by "more secure" I assume you mean less of a chance at suffering a loss but absolutely no chance of outpacing inflation?
The poor and middle class isn't doing that now and the idea that we simply must create inflation to make Wall Street happy needs to end also.
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