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Old 02-21-2016, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Pyongjang
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I don't see any path to victory for Hillary Clinton. She is losing to an old white socialist on Hispanics, getting very small voter turnouts, and her "firewall" southern states are all states she is sure to lose in the general election.

With low Democratic energy, an uninspiring candidate, poor numbers among Hispanics, and the defection of union and black voters to the GOP, how can she possibly get to 270 against an inspiring, uniting GOP candidate with broad support such as Donald J. Trump?

 
Old 02-21-2016, 02:56 PM
 
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Based on the fact that Hillary and the Democrats have lost the Middle Class, she is facing landslide losses.

The electoral map will be completely changed.

http://overpassesforamerica.com/wp-c...ctoral-map.png

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Old 02-21-2016, 03:02 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Aside from the fact that your post must be taken with a box of salt, don't worry about Hillary's (or Bernie's) path to victory. If Trump is the Republican candidate in the general election that will be an overwhelming, driving force for most Democrats to vote for their party's candidate of choice.
 
Old 02-21-2016, 03:04 PM
 
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Sadly, too many Hillary supporters are deluded about her electability. She is getting absolutely crushed among independents and young voters against her opponent, especially in general election swing states, and she doesnt have the hispanic vote either. Her firewall of African Americans are LESS enthusiastic about her than they were with Obama so she cant count on record numbers coming out to vote for her in that group either. Nevertheless, her supporters think she is an excellent general election candidate who can re-create some type of Obama coalition. Forgive them, they dont know what they are doing.
 
Old 02-21-2016, 03:06 PM
 
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Sadly, too many Hillary supporters are deluded about her electability. She is getting absolutely crushed among independents and young voters against her opponent, especially in general election swing states, and she doesnt have the hispanic vote either. Her firewall of African Americans are LESS enthusiastic about her than they were with Obama so she cant count on record numbers coming out to vote for her in that group either. Nevertheless, her supporters think she is an excellent general election candidate who can re-create some type of Obama coalition. Forgive them, they dont know what they are doing.
I agree. She is relying on staunch Democrats (those who are still alive) who reliably come out and vote for the establishment candidate in the primaries. That's not nearly enough in a general election scenario.
 
Old 02-21-2016, 03:10 PM
 
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Im no Clinton supporter but heres the map I made with her vs Rubio in a general election. Rubio would easily give her the toughest challenge. Im still undecided on NV, CO and VA.

2016 Presidential Election Interactive Map
 
Old 02-21-2016, 03:10 PM
 
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Republicans were certain Romney would win in 2012 too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQLV7nqD3CA

http://www.buzzfeed.com/kateaurthur/...day#.ue5gQykZA
 
Old 02-21-2016, 03:13 PM
 
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Aside from the fact that your post must be taken with a box of salt, don't worry about Hillary's (or Bernie's) path to victory. If Trump is the Republican candidate in the general election that will be an overwhelming, driving force for most Democrats to vote for their party's candidate of choice.
Please don't put Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders in the same category. For all I know, a large number of Bernie supporters are those who don't want to see Hillary Clinton being elected under any circumstance, for the simple fact of her immorality, arrogance, shamelessness, self-serving, untrustworthiness. I, and all those in my family of voting ages, will vote for anyone opposing her in the general election if she gets the DNC nomination instead of Bernie. We will not stay home on the Election Day. We will vote.
 
Old 02-21-2016, 03:15 PM
 
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Im no Clinton supporter but heres the map I made with her vs Rubio in a general election. Rubio would easily give her the toughest challenge. Im still undecided on NV, CO and VA.

2016 Presidential Election Interactive Map
I have a feeling about Rubio. I think there's a story there. Waiting to see if it plays out but he needs to get the nomination first. Otherwise, I think it's going to be the gold-gilded Trump, the voice of the middle class.
 
Old 02-21-2016, 03:15 PM
 
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Romney was a terrible candidate. I'd bet the vast majority of Trump supporters didn't vote for that loser. You have to build a coalition. That's what Trump is doing and Romney never did.
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