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Old 02-21-2016, 05:05 PM
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Sure. I explained in this OP.

And this was repeated in Nevada yesterday. Democrat caucus turnout was 22% lower than it was in 2008.

Democrats in Serious Trouble, lost more than 135,000 voters in just 2 states.
That doesn't necessarily reflect general election results; primary turnout reflects how exciting the intraparty contest is. Republican numbers are up because Trump/ anti-Trump inspires passion; that doesn't mean most Republican voters would be happy if Trump won the nomination

 
Old 02-21-2016, 05:07 PM
 
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Sure. I explained in this OP.

And this was repeated in Nevada yesterday. Democrat caucus turnout was 22% lower than it was in 2008.

Democrats in Serious Trouble, lost more than 135,000 voters in just 2 states.
But why does that spell trouble for the general election?

The Republican primary has been more interesting than the Democratic one. Plus, you don't have the ridiculous excitement of a Black man and a woman running for the highest office in the land. We will likely never see that type of turnout again. You can only elect the first Black President once.

There's also a sense that Hillary's nomination is inevitable and it's more of a surprise that Sanders is doing this well. I feel like he's seen as more of an annoyance in her quest to the White House whereas Obama was clearly a threat.
 
Old 02-21-2016, 05:07 PM
 
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270? I can see over 400 for Clinton in a matchup versus Trump.
 
Old 02-21-2016, 05:09 PM
 
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Meanwhile, in ALL the online betting markets where people are risking REAL MONEY on the outcome of the presidential election, Hillary is still the strong ODDS-ON FAVORITE to win...
Same sites that had Bush a sure bet to become the Republican nominee.
 
Old 02-21-2016, 05:12 PM
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When a well known White woman loses to a little known Black man in a state like NC in 2008, you have a White woman with some serious likability issues.
In a primary that has lots of black voters [2008 North Carolina: 34% of voters were black, went about 92% for Obama], it's a state that seem obviously better for Obama than many northern ones. As long Obama had some white support, he should win the primary.
 
Old 02-21-2016, 05:13 PM
 
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But why does that spell trouble for the general election?

The Republican primary has been more interesting than the Democratic one. Plus, you don't have the ridiculous excitement of a Black man and a woman running for the highest office in the land. We will likely never see that type of turnout again. You can only elect the first Black President once.
This is the reason.

Anyone interested in voting for Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders would have every reason to vote in the primary to make sure their candidate is nominated.

New Hampshire is a Blue State. Yet Republican turnout was far higher than Democrat turnout out. This never happens in that state in an open election year.
 
Old 02-21-2016, 05:13 PM
 
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270? I can see over 400 for Clinton in a matchup versus Trump.
I think the GOP leadership may just say "no" to Trump no matter how many delegates he wins. They simply can't afford to run a candidate with those types of views. A platform based on racial/immigrant resentment won't get you far in the long run.

Of course, they'd like to stop him before then, but GOP voters are showing their true colors.
 
Old 02-21-2016, 05:16 PM
 
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I think the GOP leadership may just say "no" to Trump no matter how many delegates he wins. They simply can't afford to run a candidate with those types of views. A platform based on racial/immigrant resentment won't get you far in the long run.

Of course, they'd like to stop him before then, but GOP voters are showing their true colors.
What resentment? The resentment of illegal aliens? sure, all people should come to our country legally. Do you not agree with that? So what other resentment are you referring to? the one you fabricated?

The GOP will not stop Trump if he cleans the table (well on his way). That would be political suicide.
 
Old 02-21-2016, 05:18 PM
 
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This is the reason.

Anyone interested in voting for Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders would have every reason to vote in the primary to make sure their candidate is nominated.

New Hampshire is a Blue State. Yet Republican turnout was far higher than Democrat turnout out. This never happens in that state in an open election year.
This doesn't make any sense. There was more at stake in the 2008 primary. And most people, even Hillary's hardcore supporters (and there are many, lest you believe 2008 was a fluke), are not taking Bernie Sanders that seriously. He's running an insurgency campaign. Obama, on the other hand, entered the race with Ted Kennedy by his side.
 
Old 02-21-2016, 05:19 PM
 
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It's you who claim that he won't. So your burden to prove.
I knew you'd chicken out of answering somehow. Typical.

Not only will Trump fare worse with minorities, I don't even see him getting the same share of the White vote as Romney.

Non-Hispanic White Vote
Florida: 67% of the total vote, 61% voted for Romney
Ohio: 79% of the vote, 57% for Romney
Virginia: 70% of the vote, 61% for Romney

Keep in mind these are states Romney LOST.
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