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Old 03-11-2016, 09:19 AM
 
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In open primary states. That may or may not reflect votes in the general election. It is very likely Trump will result in high voter turnout, but that might be either for or against him.
Democrat turnout is way down in closed states as well.
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Old 03-11-2016, 09:22 AM
 
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You mean those same donors Bernie courts as a Senator?
You can go to open secrets to see the money that Bernie has taken from these donors. i.e. None.

2016 Presidential Race | OpenSecrets
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Old 03-11-2016, 09:25 AM
 
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Democracy? America? Are you talking about Wasserman and the Democratic Party Elite who take hundreds of $billions from the Billionaire Class to party for their cushy mansions and lifestyles. The days of the Democratic Party facade are over.
Then why the hell did Bernie sanders join the Democratic Party last year just to run the president? Not so genuine as some of the misinformed young voters seem to think
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Old 03-11-2016, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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You can go to open secrets to see the money that Bernie has taken from these donors. i.e. None.

2016 Presidential Race | OpenSecrets
Way to miss the point. He has put in plenty of time and effort to raise funds from these very same donors as a Senator. He doesn't get retroactive purity just because he has chosen to fund raise differently in this campaign.

Not to mention that he is still the beneficiary of plenty of donor and SuperPAC money in this race - from National Nurses United as well as Republican SuperPACs who would rather face him than Hillary in the general.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/29/us...-not.html?_r=0
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Old 03-11-2016, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Then why the hell did Bernie sanders join the Democratic Party last year just to run the president? Not so genuine as some of the misinformed young voters seem to think
Give me a break. You are trying to draw some equivalence between Sanders and the $153 million payoff for Clinton? As Bernie said, those must have been some very fine speeches and she should be proud to reveal what she said.

She is a bought and paid for shill of the worse sort. But she delivered the goods to the Billionaire Class just fine.
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Old 03-11-2016, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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LOL at the idea that Sanders supporters are going to vote for Trump in the general if Hillary is the nominee.
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Old 03-11-2016, 09:41 AM
 
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LOL at the idea that Sanders supporters are going to vote for Trump in the general if Hillary is the nominee.
Totally clueless. You have zero understanding of what is driving the Independent vote this election. It's not ideology. It is the money and the anger toward a completely currupt government that is stealing $trillions from the middle class for its own benefit.
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Old 03-11-2016, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Totally clueless. You have zero understanding of what is driving the Independent vote this election. It's not ideology. It is the money.
I'm a Sanders supporter and I wouldn't **** on Trump if he was on fire. He's a vile human being.
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Old 03-11-2016, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Then why the hell did Bernie sanders join the Democratic Party last year just to run the president? Not so genuine as some of the misinformed young voters seem to think
For the publicity, data, money, etc. that comes from running as a candidate of an "establishment" party. You know, that "establishment" he keeps attacking and the Democratic party he proudly has denied being a member of for decades.

He still identifies himself as an Independent on his senate webpage and press releases, btw.

Sen. Sanders Joins More Than 30 Senators in Filing Supreme Court Amicus Brief to Support Affordable Access to Birth Control - Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont
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Old 03-11-2016, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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I'm a Sanders supporter and I wouldn't **** on Trump if he was on fire. He's a vile human being.
You think Trump is the only option? You think that people wouldn't mind taking the whole thing down. If the Democrats offer more of the same, watch how the electorate will react. And all of those states that Clinton won in the deep south won't be worth a penny.

You want to talk about vile? There is nothing more vile than a traitor and Clinton is that and more along with her fellow traitors like Obama. They sold us all out for $153 million and seats at a hedge fund.
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