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Old 04-04-2016, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Sure, but IMO a couple of things you can bank on ...

1. If Trump is at 1,200 and doesn't get the nom, he'd be crazy not to run as an Independent.
2. The GOP will never give the nomination to Cruz so it would go to a 3rd ballot
3. The GOP will lose a lot of voters to Trump as an Independent and lose the general.
4. If Trump is close/doesn't get the nom/doesn't run as 3rd, many voters will abandon the GOP and either not vote or vote Dem.


1. At that point it would be too late to get on many ballots.

2. Not saying I disagree.

3. Trump is getting destroyed in every General Election poll as it is. Neither Trump or Cruz are electable imho
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Old 04-04-2016, 03:01 PM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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1. At that point it would be too late to get on many ballots.

2. Not saying I disagree.

3. Trump is getting destroyed in every General Election poll as it is. Neither Trump or Cruz are electable imho
#1 - not true at all, as neither party has selected their candidate yet.
#3 - Reagan was @ 30% around the same time 1980 - let's clear the air and see as HRC is not without her own challenges
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Old 04-04-2016, 03:25 PM
 
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#1 - not true at all, as neither party has selected their candidate yet.
#3 - Reagan was @ 30% around the same time 1980 - let's clear the air and see as HRC is not without her own challenges
1. Neither party has selected the nominee yet, but states do have deadlines in running as a 3rd party as well as rules you can't run for a party nomination and then Independent.

2. Granted, but we are in a different time period. Not to mention having massive negatives is difficult to overcome.
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Old 04-04-2016, 03:51 PM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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1. Neither party has selected the nominee yet, but states do have deadlines in running as a 3rd party as well as rules you can't run for a party nomination and then Independent.

2. Granted, but we are in a different time period. Not to mention having massive negatives is difficult to overcome.
Smash - plenty of time for Trump to go as an Independent if desired if before the GOP nominee is announced. See Bloomberg example ...

What Bloomberg Will Need to Do to Run for President as an Independent - Hit & Run : Reason.com
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Old 04-04-2016, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Most of the delegates in most states are not Trump people. Delegates are small to large time party operatives - people who get rewarded for their years of work with a ticket to the convention and a seat on the floor. They are, in other words, establishment. While state laws may require them to support him, they will desert Trump at the first opportunity. If Trump can't get 1237, he is very unlikely to win the nomination.
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Old 04-04-2016, 04:08 PM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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Most of the delegates in most states are not Trump people. Delegates are small to large time party operatives - people who get rewarded for their years of work with a ticket to the convention and a seat on the floor. They are, in other words, establishment. While state laws may require them to support him, they will desert Trump at the first opportunity. If Trump can't get 1237, he is very unlikely to win the nomination.
And Trump will know that long before the convention, so here comes an Independent run.
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Old 04-04-2016, 04:10 PM
 
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Well said. Clearly Ted Cruz has this skill and Donald Trump does not.
?????!!! Nobody in Congress will work with Cruz now. He's despised in the Senate. Mitch McConnell hates him.
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Old 04-04-2016, 04:16 PM
 
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Sure, but IMO a couple of things you can bank on ...

1. If Trump is at 1,200 and doesn't get the nom, he'd be crazy not to run as an Independent.
If Trump enters the 1st ballot with 1200 bound delegates, then he will be nominated. There are going to be a couple of hundred unbound delegates so Trump only has to convince 38 to join him to hit 1237+1.

Trump will be nominated.

And you can bet that Trump has operatives behind the scenes making sure that he has a good cushion of these unbound delegates. Unlike the amateurish Cruz, Trump's people are good enough not to tell the world what they are up to.
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Old 04-04-2016, 04:20 PM
 
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3. Trump is getting destroyed in every General Election poll as it is. Neither Trump or Cruz are electable imho
Hillary has had it very easy campaigning against Bernie and the MSM has practically ignored Hillary over the last few months. The thing about Hillary, the more you see of her, the less you like.

Trump hasn't started to campaign for the general election. Hillary is going to melt like ice on a hot sidewalk when Trump opens up on her.
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Old 04-04-2016, 04:30 PM
 
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Hillary has had it very easy campaigning against Bernie and the MSM has practically ignored Hillary over the last few months. The thing about Hillary, the more you see of her, the less you like.

Trump hasn't started to campaign for the general election. Hillary is going to melt like ice on a hot sidewalk when Trump opens up on her.
Keep dreaming
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