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Old 06-12-2018, 06:55 AM
 
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Nixon won 49 states when he was re-elected.
Irrelevant.

Trumpís numbers with Dems and independents is comparable with Nixon after his role in Watergate was known, not when he won his landslide in 1972.

There are not enough Republicans to re-elect Trump if he loses Independents that badly in 2020.
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Old 06-12-2018, 08:36 AM
 
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Irrelevant.

Trumpís numbers with Dems and independents is comparable with Nixon after his role in Watergate was known, not when he won his landslide in 1972.

There are not enough Republicans to re-elect Trump if he loses Independents that badly in 2020.
Also, a lot of Dems voted for Trump. If the Democratic Party nominates someone they like much more than Hillary, they will likely vote against Trump, so he could lose a large number if the Dems votes in 2020.
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Old 06-12-2018, 09:30 AM
 
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Trump's Kim Jong Un peace deal will be too much for Democrats to even get a snip.
Its like September 11 impact (when Bush had the biggest approval rating of all-time).
American's own Neville Chamberlain once again crows, "Peace in our time!".

Although I must admit your comparison of Trump's newfound alliance with the greatest dictator and sociopath of our time with September 11 may be more apt than you intended.
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Old 06-13-2018, 12:02 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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American's own Neville Chamberlain once again crows, "Peace in our time!".

Although I must admit your comparison of Trump's newfound alliance with the greatest dictator and sociopath of our time with September 11 may be more apt than you intended.
It ain't over yet, but Kim Jong Un won the first round handily, and Trump came away with nothing but some vague promises.

But the first round seldom decides things like this. Given the fact that both men are about as mentally stable as hot nitroglycerine, I doubt anything of substance will come from future meetings, at least for this year.

Maybe next year, the U.S. will get a little bit that's solid though, if Trump can survive that long. But if he does, Kim won't give him very much. But he will be mighty happy to kiss Trump's butt while holding a winning hand.

One thing is for sure; Kim has firm control of his government, and is 35 years old. He understands his power and his nation far more than our President understands his, and Kim has all the time in the world to sway others internationally and use his powers.

His grandfather held those reins for 40 years, and he got a much later start at dictatorship than his grandson.

Trump doesn't have all that time. He only has 6 1/2 years max to bring North Korea to heel. That may be far less time than is needed to get it done. Take it to the bank Kim will use those years to his best advantage.
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Old 06-13-2018, 07:54 AM
 
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Kim Jong Un's biggest mistake was signing that document.
Now Trump has a license to destroy North Korea if Kim fails to impress with his denuking.
Trump can flatten North Korea and then say "You can't say I didn't give peace a chance...."
That may be what this Summit was all about, getting Kim to sign a death warrant.
Either way Trump wins.
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Old 06-24-2018, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Austin
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polls are going to be a seesaw until election day it seems. Neither party can be confident about who will win the house or senate in November.
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Old 06-24-2018, 12:45 PM
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Location: Middle Tennessee
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Kim Jong Un's biggest mistake was signing that document.
Now Trump has a license to destroy North Korea if Kim fails to impress with his denuking.
Trump can flatten North Korea and then say "You can't say I didn't give peace a chance...."
That may be what this Summit was all about, getting Kim to sign a death warrant.
Either way Trump wins.
Yeah, sure, If we go to war with North Korea Trump wins. And of course any collateral damage to South Korea or Japan is OK I guess. After all, it isn't us getting the damage, so no big deal. It's all about Trump "winning".
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Old 06-24-2018, 02:30 PM
 
Location: The State Of California
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Kim Jong Un's biggest mistake was signing that document.
Now Trump has a license to destroy North Korea if Kim fails to impress with his denuking.
Trump can flatten North Korea and then say "You can't say I didn't give peace a chance...."
That may be what this Summit was all about, getting Kim to sign a death warrant.
Either way Trump wins.


You know there's an old American cliche that's goes a little bit like this. , fool me once shame on you , fool me twice shame on me.

American Allies followed it into the war against Iraq stating Weapons of Mass Destructions , that was a big lie that ours allies swallow. Our allies were fooled by Bush and the USA house and Senate Once but not a
second time.

Neither the U.N. or ours allies are going to side with Trump in A WAR against North Korea without at least 4 to 6 years of solid negotiations.
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Old 06-24-2018, 02:44 PM
 
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You know there's an old American cliche that's goes a little bit like this. , fool me once shame on you , fool me twice shame on me.

American Allies followed it into the war against Iraq stating Weapons of Mass Destructions , that was a big lie that ours allies swallow. Our allies were fooled by Bush and the USA house and Senate Once but not a
second time.

Neither the U.N. or ours allies are going to side with Trump in A WAR against North Korea without at least 4 to 6 years of solid negotiations.
Does anyone think North Korea doesn't have nukes?
Saddam denied it, whereas Kim openly brags about it.
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Old 06-24-2018, 02:54 PM
 
Location: The State Of California
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Does anyone think North Korea doesn't have nukes?
Saddam denied it, whereas Kim openly brags about it.


All of our allies know that North Korea has nukes but none are willing to go to war against North Korea to help Donald Trump political upside!!!!---!
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