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Old 06-08-2020, 02:20 PM
 
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cut and paste from the poll details:

among a sample of 1,259 respondents, including an oversample of 250 black, nonHispanic respondents. The landline total respondents were 448 and there were 811 cell phone respondents. The
margin of sampling error for total respondents is +/- 3.4

Polls with a margin of error of 3%+ are considered low confidence polls.

Polls with a MOE <2% are high confidence.

Margin of errors are grossly understated, as much as by 1/2. The MOE for this poll could easly be +/- 6.8%
or 13.6% as a total range.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/06/u...7-instead.html
You do realize they only take a % of the black/non-hispanic voters, not the entire extra 250.

Did you ever take a stats class in college or a analytic methods?
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Old 06-08-2020, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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A key difference between Biden and Clinton is that Clinton, except for a few days in March 2016, never had any averages above 50% a year or less prior to the election.

Biden, on the other hand, has had many averages above 50%. He spent most of Feb and March above 50% and is getting darn close right now:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...iden-6247.html

That tells you Biden is more popular than Clinton was in the year prior to the election.
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Old 06-08-2020, 02:43 PM
 
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I take that back: It's now 4 polls that came out today showing Biden with a double-digit lead.

But I'm sure Trumpies will come up with some reason to explain away each and every single one.

If there were 100 polls showing Biden with a double-digit lead they would make up some reason why every single one was somehow bogus.
The RNC has to be in panic mode right now, having an incumbent down a couple of points before your convention is one thing, it's a whole different story when you have multiple polls showing them down double digits. The scariest part of the polls are 50% of voters, who are voting for a generic candidate vs. Trump, they don't care who is running against Trump, they just want him out.
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Old 06-08-2020, 02:58 PM
 
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/polit...eek/index.html

Biden 55%
Trump 41%

Ouch!

Anyone want to go find the fat lady & have her start her warmup exercises.
A poll in June means very little for an election in November. Polls right now are just data points to reflect trends. It appears that Trump is trending down, that's all we can say from these polls. If the election was today, Trump would likely lose. However, we have about 150 days to go. That's a long way to go. There could be two more coronavirus waves and 300k deaths. There could be a terrorist attack on American soil that changes our perspective. We could wind up seeing Trump's tax returns. A war could break out.

150 days is an eternity.

While I do follow the polls, I think anyone thinking this is "over" is a bit foolhardy. And it has nothing to do with 2016.
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Old 06-08-2020, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Smile Just to enlighten you...

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This fits CNN's narrative extremely well.

Gotta take advantage of these times--and bring up those ratings and advertising dollars.

CNN is a joke. That poll ehh, it's CNN. LOL
The following keep close tabs on the polls that Trumplings keep claiming are meaningless:

Senators
Congressmen
Political contributors
Foreign heads of state
Political strategists
Voters

And more than any of the above, tRump himself. His malignant narcissism demands it.

Sad...

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Old 06-08-2020, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Originally Posted by bellhead View Post
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/polit...eek/index.html

Biden 55%
Trump 41%

Ouch!

Anyone want to go find the fat lady & have her start her warmup exercises.
If the liberal Fake News polls can't open up at least a 20+ point lead, Trump is going to wipe quid pro quo Joe out in November.
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Old 06-08-2020, 03:27 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Your post is a joke, either delusional or obfuscating.

Even Fox polls have Trump losing bigly.
See this poll from Fox News, it’s a joke too.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox...mp-by-7-points

Another one
https://www.cnn.com/2016/08/03/polit...ump/index.html
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Old 06-08-2020, 04:02 PM
 
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The second link references as poll that was also covered in the first.


More importantly- they show the same point I made earlier. When you are leading but under 50% there is room for your opponent to grow. Those polls had Clinton at 48 and 49%. They were at a time when Trump was down and before the last minute Comey investigation reopening/reclosing. They had Clinton's support correct- they simply weren't capturing that Trump surged to the exact same spot that Republicans have hit in the last three presidential elections, 45-47%. If Biden stays at 50- his percentage from 2016 will be very hard to proportion into a win.
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Old 06-08-2020, 04:30 PM
 
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Originally Posted by bellhead View Post
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/polit...eek/index.html

Biden 55%
Trump 41%

Ouch!

Anyone want to go find the fat lady & have her start her warmup exercises.
Thats a big lead for a person who is brain dead.............I say the poll doesn't mean dodo.
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Old 06-08-2020, 04:41 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/polit...eek/index.html

Biden 55%
Trump 41%

Ouch!

Anyone want to go find the fat lady & have her start her warmup exercises.
Oh, I don't know.

Do Trump supporters believe in polls today?

It varies from day to day and who is up in the polls.
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