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Old 11-16-2008, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Home is where the heart is
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The two major contenders for Secretary of Health and Human Services are Kathleen Sebelius and Tom Daschle.

Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius is the better candidate, IMO. In her previous role as Kansas insurance commissioner, Sebelius established herself as someone who could stand up to powerful insurance interests. She also has fought for universal health coverage for children, a prime goal of Obama's health plan.

Tom Daschle was the Senate majority leader under Clinton. Last June he let it be known that if Obama won he wanted the job of HHS. His experience with health care includes publishing a book on health care in 2008.

Daschle's views on health-care policy are predictable for a Democratic politician with long service in the Congress. The goal that animates him is universal coverage. He is concerned about the downside to government-run health care, (frankly, problems associated with the government calling the shots).

He believes the solution is to entrust government-run health care to people more trustworthy than HHS bureaucrats or elected members of Congress. In his opinion, this would be an unaccountable, unelected board of "wise people charged with making the big and controversial decisions". Apparently this board would not have to answer to the public.

How serious he is about pursuing this idea is unclear.

Sooooo..... what do you guys think? Do you like either choice... or would you rather see a third possibility (maybe Kucinich?)
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Old 11-16-2008, 01:12 PM
 
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I live in Kansas. I CANNOT STAND Sebelius. Or Daschle either actually. Both TOO Partisan. So is Claire McCaskill of Missouri.
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Old 11-16-2008, 01:13 PM
 
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I live in Kansas. I CANNOT STAND Sebelius. Or Daschle either actually. Both TOO Partisan. So is Claire McCaskill of Missouri.
Always good to hear opinions from someone who lives in the state. Is there any reason you dislike her in addition to being partisan? Also, who would you like to see in the position?
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Old 11-16-2008, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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I went to school with daschle's son. at least he was a democrat with the courage to send his kid to a public school. he's not in favor with the party though. he's male, and he's white. he will not be considered.

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Always good to hear opinions from someone who lives in the state. Is there any reason you dislike her in addition to being partisan? Also, who would you like to see in the position?
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Old 11-16-2008, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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As a registered nurse who has to to deal with insurance companies at work AND in my private life, I'd love to see someone with experience standing up to the insurance companies. I'd go with Sebelius. Apparently the people of Kansas liked her well enough to vote her in as governor.

Kucinich is for single payor, but I don't know if he really knows what that is or how to accomplish it.
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Old 11-16-2008, 01:32 PM
 
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Always good to hear opinions from someone who lives in the state. Is there any reason you dislike her in addition to being partisan? Also, who would you like to see in the position?
Well, for one she attacked Palin for "earmarks" and said she herself (Sebelius) doesn't ask for earmarks. THAT IS A LIE. Here are 8 earmarks she has requested this year alone:
  • Kansas Biological Survey Streambank Assessment – KDHE – for $1.7 million;
  • Transmission Dynamometer – Governor’s Military Council – for $2 million;
  • I-70 Viaduct – KDOT – for $2.5 million
  • Fire station at Ft. Riley – Governor’s Military Council – for $2.7 million
  • First Responder Resiliency Training – Governor’s Military Council - $2.8 million
  • Defense Command Integration Center – Governor’s Military Council - $3.4 million
  • Chapel complex at Ft. Leavenworth – Governor’s Military Council - $3.9 million
  • Treece, Kansas Remediation Assistance – KDHE - $6.8 million
www.kansascity.com | 11/06/2008 | Obama Cabinet speculation puts Sebelius back in spotlight (http://www.kansascity.com/115/story/878980.html - broken link)

Article in the Kansas City Star online edition (link above). LOL. Look at the comments of Kansans after the article - saying she should go join Obama's cabinet so we can get her out of Kansas.
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Old 11-16-2008, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I believe our former governor, John Kitzhaber, is also being considered for Secretary, HHS, or possibly Secretary of the Interior. Dr. Kitzhaber has battled the insurance companies and set up the state run Oregon Health Plan. If Obama picks Sebelius, McCaskill, or Napolitano we're going to lose a lot of dem governors. I wonder how much that influences the decision making process.
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Old 11-16-2008, 01:45 PM
 
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I believe our former governor, John Kitzhaber, is also being considered for Secretary, HHS, or possibly Secretary of the Interior. Dr. Kitzhaber has battled the insurance companies and set up the state run Oregon Health Plan. If Obama picks Sebelius, McCaskill, or Napolitano we're going to lose a lot of dem governors. I wonder how much that influences the decision making process.
McCaskill is a senator. But she is so partisan it's disgusting, and she and Sebelius are such brown nosers when it comes to Obama it's not funny.
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Old 11-16-2008, 02:01 PM
 
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Kucinich all the way!! His healthcare plan is years ahead of anyone else's, his voting record also shows that he has been right about things more than most. He cares about the people and isnt on the take from dirty lobbyist and corporate interests.

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Old 11-16-2008, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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McCaskill is a senator. But she is so partisan it's disgusting, and she and Sebelius are such brown nosers when it comes to Obama it's not funny.
McCaskill made a really nasty remark about Bill Clinton - how she wouldn't want her daughter near him - totally unnecessary remark to be made in public during a campaign. I listened to her during the campaign and she's not one of my favorites. Bill Clinton campaigned hard for McCaskill when she was running for guv. She's in the same league with Bill Richardson. No opinion about Sebelius except she's pretty boring as a speaker
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