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View Poll Results: Romance or Germanic Europe?
Romance 141 56.63%
Germanic 108 43.37%
Voters: 249. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-04-2013, 04:11 AM
 
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I like Bavaria: it is a Germanic country, but with Romanian architecture. And the climate is ideal.
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Old 11-04-2013, 04:12 AM
 
Location: Hong Kong / Vienna
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I like Bavaria: it is a Germanic country, but with Romanian architecture. And the climate is ideal.
Romanian architecture?
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Old 11-05-2013, 04:13 AM
 
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Oh! Not Romanian (from Romania), but influenced by the city of Rome.

So, let it be:
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Bavaria is a Germanic land with baroque architecture and the climate, which is warmer than in Northern Germany.
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Old 11-05-2013, 09:51 PM
 
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Updated studies on the British and Irish.


Colm T. O'Dushlaine, Derek Morris, Valentina Moskvina, George Kirov, International Schizophrenia Consortium, Michael Gill, Aiden Corvin, James F. Wilson, and Gianpiero L. Cavalleri. "Population structure and genome-wide patterns of variation in Ireland and Britain." European Journal of Human Genetics 18 (2010): pages 1248-1254. First published online on June 23, 2010. The researchers studied the genetics of 3,654 including people from Ireland, the United Kingdom (including Aberdeen, Scotland), Sweden, Portugal, Bulgaria, and the American state of Utah (whose people are largely of English descent). Haplotype diversity was found to be lower in Ireland and Scotland than in southern Europe. Also, Irish people have higher levels of linkage disequilibrium and homozygosity compared to other Europeans. The results showed that the population of Ireland has been relatively isolated throughout the millennia. The article notes that Scottish people are "intermediate between the Irish and English cohorts" in principal component analysis. British and Irish people are predominantly "Northwestern" European in origin but also partly "Scandinavian" (moreso for English people than Irish people) and have relatively small amounts of "Iberian" and "Balkan" ancestry.
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Old 11-06-2013, 10:48 AM
 
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Romanian architecture?
I guess he's referring to Romanesque architecture...
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Old 11-06-2013, 10:58 AM
 
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Interesting, I thought that in Germany and Austria the majority of people are locals. I did not see much immigrants there. Maybe Czechs and Poles in Austria and some Turks in Germany (but even Turks were not in such large amount as some say).
That's true, Switzerland and Austria have mostly foreigners from other european countries (mostly eastern europeans), and even those are not even close to being a large minority, only switzerland I recall have a large minority (about 25-27%) of immigrant population but although the large majority of them are from nearby european countries or eastern europe. The only area where there is an overwhelming amount of (non-western) immigrants might be the netherlands (amsterdam, rotterdam and den haag already less than 50% dutch) and non western foreigners being up to 25-30 % in all those cities, followed by Flanders (Belgium). Germany has many foreigners but mainly on large cities of western germany and even those areas don't even come close at the scale of immigration and specially large chunk of non-western foreigners the Netherlands have. Walking in cities like Amsterdam, Rotterdam or Brussels feel like being on a gettho where locals are no longer in the majority. Scandinavian countries must be the ones with the most rapidly growth of non-western foreigners in the last 10-15 years, specially the large cities like Stockholm, malmo, gotheborg and Oslo, I see a bad future in few years for all those countries.


Im not counting the UK and Ireland as germanic, because despite the english language is spoken there they feel like something else. For me Ireland and UK are pretty insular culturally wise, they dont reflect closely any other population in mainland europe.

Brits always will claim the UK being the most multicultural place in europe but the studied contradict it , as high as 91% of the Isles population is of ethnic british origin, and even london is about 70% british isles descent. With the last on count we are not even considering all the large minorities of eastern european groups (such as poles).

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Old 11-06-2013, 11:07 AM
 
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Yes, Brits are Brits, a class of their own.

Yes, I find quite funny when tourists say "French..Spanish..Dutch are like this and like that"..when they probably did not meet any national of those countries. Almost all employees in the service sector are foreigners....Take a look at Barcelona, your friendly neighbour's tapas bar is now managed by a Chinese family, local groceris are owned by people from Pakistan..and all waiters are Argentinians, there must be a lot of them, also a lot of Ecuatorians, Romanians, you name it.

A lot of unemployment on papers, but you won't find locals for certain jobs...so the unemployment figure is all wet....and LOTS of locals living on the dole or "del invento" (anything that comes up).
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Old 11-06-2013, 12:00 PM
 
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actually both ....but I would say a bit more Romance
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Old 11-06-2013, 12:01 PM
 
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I like Bavaria: it is a Germanic country, but with Romanian architecture. And the climate is ideal.
me too
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Old 11-06-2013, 12:47 PM
 
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That's true, Switzerland and Austria have mostly foreigners from other european countries (mostly eastern europeans), and even those are not even close to being a large minority, only switzerland I recall have a large minority (about 25-27%) of immigrant population but although the large majority of them are from nearby european countries or eastern europe.
Actually, both Austria and Switzerland have a rather big portion of foreign born citizens

List of countries by foreign-born population - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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