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Old 08-24-2012, 04:33 AM
 
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calvinism is much more harsh , draconian and dogmatic than catholicism , besides that , i thought germany was lutheran

And Catholics...don't forget that the Hapsburgs wasted all the Spanish gold and silver fighting heathens in their German territories. Almost all Nazi leaders were born as Catholics, of course, they did not believe in anything..but culturally they were Catholics. Addie, for instance.

 
Old 08-24-2012, 01:26 PM
 
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And Catholics...don't forget that the Hapsburgs wasted all the Spanish gold and silver fighting heathens in their German territories. Almost all Nazi leaders were born as Catholics, of course, they did not believe in anything..but culturally they were Catholics. Addie, for instance.
their was nothing remotely culturally catholic about the nazi party

catholicism espouses traits such as equality , charity , compassion , forgiveness

the nazis were authoritarian right and then some

catholicism is authoritarian left
 
Old 08-24-2012, 01:58 PM
 
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catholicism espouses traits such as equality , charity , compassion , forgiveness
Really? What's catholicism's opinion on homosexuality? Is it equality or compassion?
Religion can sometimes be extremely hypocritical and cruel.
 
Old 08-25-2012, 05:08 AM
 
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their was nothing remotely culturally catholic about the nazi party

catholicism espouses traits such as equality , charity , compassion , forgiveness

the nazis were authoritarian right and then some

catholicism is authoritarian left

Irish

Theoretically, all religions in the world expouse the same traits...

But Nazism was profoundly Medieval, and racial laws were a throwback to the XIVth century. The SS mimmicked the Jesuits and they used Inquisition methods.

Nazis were medieval people with 20th Century technology, and they had more of Simon the Hermit than of Luther.

They were no different from those manic crusaders of the first crusade, no different at all, but with tanks and guns.
 
Old 08-25-2012, 04:44 PM
 
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Really? What's catholicism's opinion on homosexuality? Is it equality or compassion?
Religion can sometimes be extremely hypocritical and cruel.
name one religon which is more tollerant of homosexuality than catholicism , many protestant denominations are much more anti gay , especially in the usa

anti catholicism is the only remaining respectable form of prejudice amongst so called liberal western cultures , no one among the pc media would dare trash islam or judaism but the catholics are fair game
 
Old 08-25-2012, 05:13 PM
 
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Irish

Theoretically, all religions in the world expouse the same traits...

But Nazism was profoundly Medieval, and racial laws were a throwback to the XIVth century. The SS mimmicked the Jesuits and they used Inquisition methods.

Nazis were medieval people with 20th Century technology, and they had more of Simon the Hermit than of Luther.

They were no different from those manic crusaders of the first crusade, no different at all, but with tanks and guns.
Well some of the anti semitic ideas the Nazis got were from the Spanish inquisition. However a lot of their ideas sprang from Social Darwinism ideas from the Germany plus the USA in the 19th and early 20th century.

The Crusaders were justifying they were fighting a cause due to their religion yet the Nazis were a secular party. The Nazis wanted to unite all German speaking tribes in a single union and it emphasis was racial supremacy, the crusaders wanted to unite all catholic Christians to retake the ancient Holy Land and it was for religious reasons and not racial reasons.
 
Old 08-26-2012, 05:52 AM
 
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The Inquisition was Roman (The Pope). Social Darwinism, all around Europe.

Crusaders and NAZIS were not different. Nazis HAD their crazed religion (there are many books about the subject).

Who cares if the scapegoat was the Holy Land or "Aryan" people or Jews? (The same scapegoats used one time after another...)..

Nazis and Crusaders did not believe in the Holy Land, the Holy Grial, Aryans, etc, etc, they only wanted POWER, RICHES and an excuse to KILL AND PLUNDER.
 
Old 08-27-2012, 06:21 AM
 
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I would like to hear some real definitions of the term 'Germanic'. If by 'Germanic culture' one means the iron-age and early medieval societies, I don't consider a single nation 'Germanic'.

If you want a pagan and rune-writing society that punishes its criminals in a tribal assembly, you won't find them easily. If by 'Germanic' you mean cultures that has been influenced by german culture and people, I could name most European countries.

e: The Christmas tree origins from Germany. OP could want to add that to his list of criteria.
 
Old 08-27-2012, 01:02 PM
 
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I would consider any part of Europe that was speaking a Germanic tongue prior to 1492 Germanic.
 
Old 08-27-2012, 01:21 PM
 
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I would consider any part of Europe that was speaking a Germanic tongue prior to 1492 Germanic.
What has the year 1492 got to do with Germanic countries?
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