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You are talking about Hollywod nazis, or "American" nazis.
I am talking about real nazis.
Nazis hated everyone except them, and they decided who was "hatable" and not "hatable".
watch the movie american history x with ed norton
listen to where neo nazi ed furlong says , " i hate anyone who isnt white protestant "
listen to where neo nazi ed furlong says , " i hate anyone who isnt white protestant "
Do all your arguments about the accuracy of claims made about historic occurrences include quotes from movies? First the Blues Brothers, now American History X? What's next - proof of vampires in Transylvania, refer to Twilight?
Most of Normans were common Frenchmen, not descendants of Normans (just a few). So I guess you like frogs.
Normans were basically people who the men originally were Vikings that settled in Normandy and they intermarried with the French women that lived there. French settlement in UK was more extensive during the 17th century when French Protestants fled France to flee religious persecution. The French protestants also fled to other protestant countries including America and South Africa. In Berlin three centuries ago, had a very large proportion of French Speakers and existed until the start of the 19th century.
The invasion by William the Conqueror (Guillaume le Conquereur) was a "crusade" that attracted men from kingdoms all over France and even Italy. Normans descendants, in fact, were a trifle minority and culturaqlly they were 100 percent French. They considered themselves full-blooded French and any mention to "Viking Pirates" was a big offense for them. Of course, the language spoken in England at that time must have sounded like screeching crickets for them.
listen to where neo nazi ed furlong says , " i hate anyone who isnt white protestant "
Hollywood is crap, does not have anything to do with the US. Those movies are the figment of the imagination of crazy hebraic scriptwriters that take steroids.
As Cristopher Lambert said in The Highlander..."It's make believe".
The invasion by William the Conqueror (Guillaume le Conquereur) was a "crusade" that attracted men from kingdoms all over France and even Italy. Normans descendants, in fact, were a trifle minority and culturaqlly they were 100 percent French. They considered themselves full-blooded French and any mention to "Viking Pirates" was a big offense for them. Of course, the language spoken in England at that time must have sounded like screeching crickets for them.
Well the Viking settlers did not bring women to Normady and most Viking settlements where along coastal regions. They spoke a dialect which was distinct from the rest of France. Yet some regions of France had a different dialect at that time. Today the Norman French language has died out in France but still survives in the British Channel Islands.
Here is a source of Viking settlement in Normandy.
As far as we can judge, the density of Scandinavian settlements and population was patchy. From the place name evidence, it seems that some areas were left free of Scandinavian settlement but the coastal regions of Pays de Caux and Cotentin were heavily populated by them. Also important, but to a lesser degree, was settlement of the Seine valley, the Plain of Caen and Bessin.
Anyway for William the first he also had ansestors that were Vikings yet it was from his father side. Here is the source:
England's first Norman king, William I, was born in 1028, at Falaise Castle, the illegitimate son of Robert the Devil or the Magnificent, Duke of Normandy and Herleve, (sometimes called Arlette) the daughter of Fullbert, a tanner of Falaise. Before history renamed him the Conqueror he was more commonly known to his contemporaries as William the Bastard. Herleve was reported to have attracted Duke Robert with her dancing, in some accounts, he is said to have first caught sight of her while she was washing her linen in the castle moat.
The Norman dynasty had been founded by Robert's ancestor Rollo or Hrolf the Ganger, a Viking raider chief, who was granted the duchy by Charles the Simple, King of France, in 911, at the Treaty of Saint-Clair-sur-Epte, in exchange for feudal alliegiance and conversion to Christianity at which he took the baptismal name of Robert.
Invaders in the western and well stablished provinces of the Roman Empire such as Galia, Italia and Hispania, were totally insignificant from an ethnic or cultural point of view. All invaders since the fourth century to the eight and ninth century (normands) were less than half a million and Gallia, later Frankland, had an estimated of 15.000.0000-20.000.000 inhabitants during the fourth century.
As Visigoths and Suevians in Spain, Franks and Normans lost their language and culture in two or three generations. The Norman dialect is totally Romanesque, with no Norman influence whatsoever.
The Normans that invaded France were mostly French, a large part from all over France, so it was more of a French invasion.
The fact that they were called "Norman" is misleading since it meant a regional adscription, not an ethnic or cultural adscription (such a fact was stressed during the romantic period). It would be like calling all the Asturian or Catalan Kingdoms in the 9th Century "Gothland" and "Frankland" because royalty, nobility and high clergy were from that remote origin, but the only thing they preserved from their origin was part of the Gothic law and jewelry.
Invaders in the western and well stablished provinces of the Roman Empire such as Galia, Italia and Hispania, were totally insignificant from an ethnic or cultural point of view. All invaders since the fourth century to the eight and ninth century (normands) were less than half a million and Gallia, later Frankland, had an estimated of 15.000.0000-20.000.000 inhabitants during the fourth century.
As Visigoths and Suevians in Spain, Franks and Normans lost their language and culture in two or three generations. The Norman dialect is totally Romanesque, with no Norman influence whatsoever.
The Normans that invaded France were mostly French, a large part from all over France, so it was more of a French invasion.
The fact that they were called "Norman" is misleading since it meant a regional adscription, not an ethnic or cultural adscription (such a fact was stressed during the romantic period). It would be like calling all the Asturian or Catalan Kingdoms in the 9th Century "Gothland" and "Frankland" because royalty, nobility and high clergy were from that remote origin, but the only thing they preserved from their origin was part of the Gothic law and jewelry.
Just romantic stuff.
Early Norman language did borrow many Norse words. Norman language was a Romanesque language still.
The Norman language is therefore basically a Romance language with a certain amount of vocabulary of Norse origin, plus later loanwords from other languages as spoken in the Channel Islands. Jèrriais - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
My father has very blonde hair and very fair and as stated has ancestors that were from Normandy region. Blonde hair and blue eyes is more of a Scandinavian trait. Yet of course just because someone with blonde hair and blue eyes does not always mean they have Scandinavian ancestors.
Spain at that period had different kingdoms and that was in the 11th century, and France was the same as there were different kingdoms unlike today.
The Norman French invaders of England did eventually assimilate in English society yet there were people that did went England after the Norman invasions which were Jews. Most Jews never assimilated with the English population and that was the same case for other European countries.
The French Norman invasions did result in events that later resulted in the 100 year war between France and England. In addition the French Norman invasions did result in the development of the English language to have many Romanesque words.
I guess the further north you go, the more Germanic it gets. Big countries such as France, Britain, or Germany are a mess anyway. While almost all Germans speak a Germanic language (although German has a large Latin and Greek-based vocabulary, just like English does), many of them are not ethnically Germanic, but Celtic or a mix of those and/or other backgrounds. The same goes for Britain. And France is much more Germanic than its language might indicate.
Iceland seems an utterly Germanic place to me, and I would never ever want to live there
Celtics and Germanics were Indoeuropean cultures, not races.
There is no Germanic or Celtic race.
The source of Germanic culture is the Jutland peninsula, from there it expanded into Germania (Rhine to Vistula and Ucraine) that were occupied by pre-celtic and pre-slavic people.
It happened quite recently in historical terms, before 2500 there was no German or Celtic culture.
Germanic culture is more of a mix than Celtics, they are a confederation (All-Gemeine) of different tribes that included Sarmantians (part of Visigoths), Iranians (Alans) and pre-slavic and most of all, pre-Celt from the Hallstat civilization (nothing to do with western European celts).
Stating that Germans belong to the "Germanic" race is just like saying 2000 years from now from now that all the inhabitants of the American continent are Spaniards because they speak a language that remotely resembles Spanish, eat tacos and drink wine.
Iceland is culturally Scandinavian (Jute Peninsula or Danemark), but ethnically is largely Irish.
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