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Before you and Grey got into it with each other, there was a discussion about foreign investment in manufacturing in Russia, that turned into a convo on why foreign partners are reluctant to invest in Russia or do joint ventures (which would help Russia develop its own production capacity), and an example was given of oil extraction operations by foreign companies that got nationalized. So even though the topic is manufacturing, the oil extraction example was relevant, because it was about why Russia-foreign business partnerships can fail, and why there may not be interest in some countries to help Russia rebuild its factories. Anyway, Grey gave some good examples of things Russia does export to other countries, including developed countries. All those things were on-topic. Fighting about spies and such is not on topic. Discussions of how the Russian legal system might be hindering development, formation of businesses, foreign trade, or partnerships with foreign businesses would be on-topic.
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